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    Default Is X-men name outdated?

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    Let's politely discuss & don't make it "rectangle thread" of the day.
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    One vote here for a new inclusive name for X-people. Absolutely. I hate it when a X-Woman is called "X-Man".

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    I'd say "member of the X-Men" every time, but that's clunky. So I vote for the superior and gender-neutral, "X-Bubs."
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    No.
    What I dislike is when a woman prefers the word "actor" to "actress" for her profession.
    For me, "men" is just a neutral noun that often includes men and women. It's a convention.
    So, X-woman is fine too and makes sense.

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    In Spanish it is called "Patrulla-X", that is to say "X-Patrol", which is gender neutral and I think that it represents better the function of the X-Men than its authentic name.

    The problem is, of course, the resemblance to Doom Patrol.

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    I personally don't think it is, but I understand why people can see it that way, I wouldn't like it if they changed the name but I wouldn't really cry about it if they named them something like X-Factor, a name already linked to them, it would bother me more if they invent an entire new name


    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    In Spanish it is called "Patrulla-X", that is to say "X-Patrol", which is gender neutral and I think that it represents better the function of the X-Men than its authentic name.

    The problem is, of course, the resemblance to Doom Patrol.
    That's in Spanish from Spain right? because I'm from Argentina and here it's "Hombres X" (X-men), X-Patrol doesn't sound bad but, and perhaps it is because of the usage of "patrulla" in here, I link that too much to a military/police group, and they are meant to be more than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxi_miceli View Post
    That's in Spanish from Spain right? because I'm from Argentina and here it's "Hombres X" (X-men), X-Patrol doesn't sound bad but, and perhaps it is because of the usage of "patrulla" in here, I link that too much to a military/police group, and they are meant to be more than that
    Yeah, it's Spanish from Spain. I like it a lot, although the paramilitary connotation also upsets me.

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    That's in Spanish from Spain right? because I'm from Argentina and here it's "Hombres X" (X-men), X-Patrol doesn't sound bad but, and perhaps it is because of the usage of "patrulla" in here, I link that too much to a military/police group, and they are meant to be more than that
    Yes, it's from Spain. I always liked the name of "Patrulla-X" for the official big tittle. Only when they release the second title, they start to use the X-Men. Nowadays we have a lot of "X-Men" and "Patrulla-X" titles.

    And on the topic, I wouldn't mind if they change the "official name of the brand" to something more gender-inclusive; and by the way, X-Patrol sounds great to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet Rita View Post
    One vote here for a new inclusive name for X-people. Absolutely. I hate it when a X-Woman is called "X-Man".
    Ugh, me too!

    Quote Originally Posted by maxi_miceli View Post
    I personally don't think it is, but I understand why people can see it that way, I wouldn't like it if they changed the name but I wouldn't really cry about it if they named them something like X-Factor, a name already linked to them, it would bother me more if they invent an entire new name




    That's in Spanish from Spain right? because I'm from Argentina and here it's "Hombres X" (X-men), X-Patrol doesn't sound bad but, and perhaps it is because of the usage of "patrulla" in here, I link that too much to a military/police group, and they are meant to be more than that
    Spain is so special with translations lol. In Chile we use "Hombres X" too and that's the same with Latin America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    In Spanish it is called "Patrulla-X", that is to say "X-Patrol", which is gender neutral and I think that it represents better the function of the X-Men than its authentic name.

    The problem is, of course, the resemblance to Doom Patrol.
    And we certainly wouldn't want that now. Would we? 😏

    Doom Patrol debut March 1963 at DC Comics.

    X-Men debut September 1963 at Marvel Comics.

    #sarcasm


    X-Men is the name. Unique and distinct from X-Force and X-Factor.
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    I wish things could change and people not attribute it to an agenda or conspiracy against your childhood. Gay agenda! Black agenda! SJW agenda! C’mon, now...

    Anyway I can go either way but I like the sound of X-Corps or X-Force a lot more than X-Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    And we certainly wouldn't want that now. Would we? ��

    Doom Patrol debut March 1963 at DC Comics.

    X-Men debut September 1963 at Marvel Comics.

    #sarcasm


    X-Men is the name. Unique and distinct from X-Force and X-Factor.
    I think that's the point of the branching names anyway, to diversify the line a bit more over the years. Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, X-Men Gold, X-men Blue, X-Men Red, X-Factor, Excalibur, X-Force, Exiles, New Mutants, Generation X, Academy X

    They even did an X-Men team that was all women, Storm's team with a majority female line up and that worked fine, it went on for around 2 years and pretty much wrapped the entire storyline before their team was folded back into the mainline teams again.

    I wouldn't mind an all female team for the fall, the X-Men have a lot of characters it's easy to build different combination of teams even for short runs. I feel like the X-Men are pretty good for diversity overall. There are some areas of improvement, probably more active African American characters, and I wouldn't mind seeing a few more prominent female LGBT characters. They made Bobby gay and even worked it in pretty ok over all. I think they could easily make Rachel bisexual and Illyana gay without any issues and that would give them some more female LGBT representation.

    But I think the X-Men title is fine, there are enough corresponding titles that have had prominence for a long time that most people see the whole franchise as the x-books, x-franchise, etc.. Heck X-Factor has been around since the early 90's, and X-Force appeared in the 90's too, and both of them are really well established team types with rotating rosters.

    It's not like Women haven't had a chance to shine as leaders. Storm was one of the best 90's leaders when she was written best, Jean was perfect on X-Men Red. Kitty was a bit off, but I almost wonder if that was intentional, like maybe showing Kitty wasn't quite ready to be a leader and didn't know how to delegate well, whereas leaders like Storm and Jean are much better at delegating out on their teams instead of trying to do everything themselves.

    I know Emma wasn't a leader on her own, but she was a pretty good co-leader, and I liked how they always portrayed Emma as careful when it came to criticising other leaders in front of people. Emma always waited till her, Scott, and Logan were alone or in private to have arguments with them instead of arguing in front of their teammates.

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    We do live in an era of heightened politicial correctness (and equally heightened backlash against it)...and as much as Marvel would want to ride that wave, I doubt that tampering with one of their biggest brands that they just got back is ever going to be on the cards.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we get an 'X-Women' spin-off film at some point though, and that would be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    What I dislike is when a woman prefers the word "actor" to "actress" for her profession.
    Stupid, isn't it? Women seem to prefer being called "actor" to "actress", these days, but there's a problem with X-"Men"? God, I hate 2019.

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    I think it still fits and is fine the way it is.
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