Let the Sidekicks become Adults

[The Darknight Detective]

Wasn't she around Batgirls age pre crisis? That would have made her several years older than the Fab5 back than (pre crisis Batgirl was 7 years older than Robin).

Barbara was at least 25 (since she was in Congress), while Kara was college age.

[Aahz]

According to the DC wikia Kara graduated and became a graduate student in the early 70s, the Fab 5 were still in their first year at collage during that time (and stayed that age roughly till the start of the NTT in the early 80s).

[Vakanai]

fist years pot

Is that what the kids are doing now? No wonder Tim thinks he's 16 again.

[Kon93]

How about not creating anymore derivative type characters as in boys, girls, Robin's, kids, of any kind. Instead create new characters like Sideways, Bunker, and Damage(grant E.).

35 year old guys(where Clark and Bruce should be) can have teenage kids, so Damian and Jon would be OK, but just FREEZE everyone's age after that, atleast the derivative characters that are direct offshoots from the adult stars.

[Lee]

I think they should let them remain teenagers.

The more Robins they add and age up, the older Batman gets. There won't be room for all of these characters.

[donnafan]

The Titans aged up and look what happened with them. Seems like DC editorial doesn't want legacy characters to grow up and become peers with their mentors. If they do, they become mass murders, shot in the head or dead. Better to leave them young otherwise, it's the kiss of death.

[Rac7d*]

No Tim just became 17 shortly before flashpoint, and was apparently aged back to 16 afterwards (they didn't mention his age during the fist years pot flashpoint).

This is where it sucks for tim being 16 with Damian behind him at 13, Damian cant age without addressing tim and they dont want him to be an adult so he kind of has to disappear and he tends to be tethered to his pack (cassie, kon and bart). Jon on the precipice of being a legal adult now is gonna stress things further

[Jackalope89]

This is where it sucks for tim being 16 with Damian behind him at 13, Damian cant age without addressing tim and they dont want him to be an adult so he kind of has to disappear and he tends to be tethered to his pack (cassie, kon and bart). Jon on the precipice of being a legal adult now is gonna stress things further

Jon being aged up, well, lets just say, its still very unpopular as it hasn't had a purpose other than shock value for the sake of shock value. Whereas Dick and his generation aged up normally. Even Jason Todd somewhat got that (training around the world while presumed dead).

[MajorHoy]

This is where it sucks for tim being 16 with Damian behind him at 13, Damian cant age without addressing tim and they dont want him to be an adult so he kind of has to disappear and he tends to be tethered to his pack (cassie, kon and bart). Jon on the precipice of being a legal adult now is gonna stress things further

Remember, Damian wasn't suppose to age after a certain point: Grant Morrison always planned to kill him off.
But due to the character's overall popularity, DC decided Damian wasn't going to stay dead.

[Shamrock Holmes]

No Tim just became 17 shortly before flashpoint, and was apparently aged back to 16 afterwards (they didn't mention his age during the fist years pot flashpoint).

Only if you ignore really obvious stuff like 52 and OYL chronicalling a year going by... (and that's without counting narratives like NML which were similar length, but less obviously so). Realistically, Tim should have been at least 18-19 (which Cass Cain, id'ed as 16 around the sametime as Tim was first ID'ed as 15-16, was indentified as being pre-FP.

Basically, my problem with the current approach is that it's inconsistent, kids and pre-teens are allowed to "age up" to story-usable ages, but adult characters are "frozen" because the PTB think that "old" does sell (never mind that Superman and Wonder Woman are effectively immortal, and that one of most popular and enduring elements of the DCAU was Batman Beyond, a a show that literally revolves around an old Bruce Wayne mentoring a new rookie Batman).

[Masterff]

For the sidekicks to reach adulthood the mentors have to actually get older. DC has spent 80+ years rebooting Superman and Batman so that they can be eternally young stars of the DC line.

Dick Grayson has to be old enough when he becomes Nightwing to no longer be a "teen wonder". Now add in Jason having at least enough time to be recognized as a separate Robin (not just a fill-in). And now we have to add enough time for Tim to go from teen Robin to 22-25 year old guy. So now Dick is older than Bruce was when Batman appeared and Bruce is closer to 40 than 35 (if not over 40).

Same logic applies to Cassie who ages up Donna if not Diana (though Diana supposedly starts aging upon leaving the island in some takes). Kon-El at the least means Superman has aged 6-9 years from Kon's debut as 16 to your preferred age. Bart has the problem of either co-existing with one of the Kid Flashes or else expanding Barry's career to include the original, Barry's death and then Bart's whole career.

Not really....
This is FICTIONAL and this means you could use the old method of Series and Comics, where the MENTOR KEEPS HIS AGE and the SIDEKICK gets older...
This was also done before Flashpoint where Kon El,Tim,Bart etc. became older and Clark,Bruce etc. kept their age....
Its not a big problem...

What everybody already said. The current DC wants the Justice League gen to be the main characters the audience prefer, and they can't have that if their sidekicks grow up into something younger, sexier, and more relatable.

Thats a CURRENT DC PROBLEM..
BEFORE Nightwing,Wally,Garth....became older and became as powerful or in Wallys Case more powerful than his mentor...

But, DC just de-aged practically everybody at the start of the New52 back in 2011!!!

You want DC to suddenly re-age (and more!) all the characters now?

Its enough if you re-establish the Pre-Flashpoint ages and let the Side-Kicks become older and keep the mentors age.

At the end of Flashpoint Tim looked older than 20 Years with his long hairs and Red Robin Outfit with the cowl...

Everyone on that show is way older than most of their comic counterparts.

It depends, they were de-aged now in Rebirth, because Tim in Show should be in the same age as he was at the end of Pre-Flashpoint.

Yeah, Tim definitely should've been 18 at that point.
Especially after the timeskip between seasons 2 and 3. They aged up so much that Aqualad outright replaced Aquaman.

Yeah, Kara is one of those characters whose current continuity is strictly post-New 52. Post-Crisis originally had a rule that Superman should be the only surviving Kryptonian, hence the 90s Matrix Supergirl.

This changed in 2004 when my favorite Version of Supergirl showed up (trained by the Amazons and friend of Cassie and Conner)

Barbara was at least 25 (since she was in Congress), while Kara was college age.

How do you know that?
I remind at the Supergirl Story where she was ONE DAY in High School and she quit, because of being bullied..

I think they should let them remain teenagers.

The more Robins they add and age up, the older Batman gets. There won't be room for all of these characters.

This is what ruinates the characters TIM etc. because they simply dont have the chance to develop and become legends on their own...
This is what I miss, Pre-Flashpoint managed it a million times better...



It would be VERY SIMPLE:

Freeze Bruce,Clark,Diana,Barry at 35
Dick,Donna,Wally,Garth are 28 or so
Tim,Bart,Conner,Cassie... are 22-25 Years old

So you would have the chance to have 2 great but different TITANS Teams....

[Konja7]

Its enough if you re-establish the Pre-Flashpoint ages and let the Side-Kicks become older and keep the mentors age.

At the end of Flashpoint Tim looked older than 20 Years with his long hairs and Red Robin Outfit with the cowl...

Tim was still 17 in Pre-Flashpoint continuity, even if he looks older.

It was mentioned that he quits high school.

[SilverWarriorWolf]

Let’s go back to the Golden Age and start with Superbaby and Battot, and then age in real time! /s

In all seriousness, this is a touch question, and one that I doubt has a simple, catch all solution.

[Aahz]

This is where it sucks for tim being 16 with Damian behind him at 13, Damian cant age without addressing tim and they dont want him to be an adult so he kind of has to disappear and he tends to be tethered to his pack (cassie, kon and bart). Jon on the precipice of being a legal adult now is gonna stress things further

Damian being 13 is anyway wired, pre Rebith he was always said to be 10 and post Rebirth he was suddenly 13.
And they didn't even change his appearance accordingly, he is still as short as he was pre Rebirth.

[Aahz]

Only if you ignore really obvious stuff like 52 and OYL chronicalling a year going by... (and that's without counting narratives like NML which were similar length, but less obviously so). Realistically, Tim should have been at least 18-19 (which Cass Cain, id'ed as 16 around the sametime as Tim was first ID'ed as 15-16, was indentified as being pre-FP.

He was said to be 17 in Red Robin.

If you really want the ages to match the time that passes in universe, Tim would have (when I calculated correctly) turned 20 during OYL, and would proably have been 22 or 23 around flashpoint (which would make Dick roughly 30).