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    Default Superman vs Godzilla

    The opposing pinnacles of otherworldly power collide!



    1. DCEU Superman vs Monsterverse Godzilla

    2. Composite live-action movie Superman (Reeve/Routh/Cavill) vs Composite live-action movie Godzilla

    3. Composite Comics Superman vs Composite Comics Godzilla (all OP versions for both in play)

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    #3 is a horror stomp in Supes‘ favour. Thought Robot Superman etc. are, I’m pretty certain, WAAAAAY out of Zilla’s league.

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    1. 50/50. That Supes gets knocked around by conventional munitions at times and by villains with electric powers.
    2. That Supes can lift any specified G into space
    3. Composite Supes includes ones that can tow planets and was invulnerable to everything except K and magic and sometimes other Kryptonians (that depended). He tears G apart. Can the Hell Godzilla out fight a planet mover? That's the only possibility.

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    Hellzilla destroyed the planet, and a dimension (Heaven) with his atomic breath. He's also thousands upon thousands of bats.

    He's still not beating Thought Robot Superman.
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    Superman likely wins #1, but Godzilla will somehow kill less bystanders =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    He's also thousands upon thousands of bats.
    ...I now have a mental image of Supes being a whirlwind of death upon those bats, while Batman is on his knees in tears witnessing the carnage screaming why.

    ...I gotta be honest.

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    Comics version Supes one-shotted Neron's infinite realities, Withstanding a sun-eater( Who just absorbed a sun before) explode even in Byrne era. Destroyed a planet just by jumping. One-shotted GL's construct and side effect send GL to unconsciouse(His shield could withstanding a supernova in Cosmic Odyssey). And all this was happened after COIE
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyuiop1998 View Post
    Comics version Supes one-shotted Neron's infinite realities,
    That's not what happened at all. Even setting aside the fact that it was a mental thing not a physical one, Neron ewremained in control of his body after that

    Withstanding a sun-eater( Who just absorbed a sun before) explode even in Byrne era.
    Again that's not what happened. He was moved through time each time, rather than actually tank the explosion. In any case that would simply constitute an outlier with rest of Byrne era (though this was technically after Byrne left the books) even if taken at face value

    Destroyed a planet just by jumping. One-shotted GL's construct and side effect send GL to unconsciouse(His shield could withstanding a supernova in Cosmic Odyssey).
    Ugh John Stewart has also beaten Superman, in fact around the same time if we're going by "who did what against whom" rather than actual feats

    Are you implying Superman's punches are more powerful than a supernova?

    And all this was happened after COIE
    Not everything that happened after COIE is consistent with his power levels after COIE, and in cases like the Pre Death of Superman, Nu 52, Rebirth etc there's a big difference in power levels over the time periods mentioned where the character is out right given a power boost (post Death of Superman), specifically a different character (Nu 52 before the merger) or a composite (Rebirth)

    So while stuff like pre Death Superman surviving the sun eater might be ok for Rebirth Supes, within the context of the story itself (when he also gets KOd by a nuke, in the same story) it's inconsistent with regards to his power levels at that time

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    Composite Superman means Precrisis Superdick is part of it.

    Godzilla gets forced to be the MC for when Lois is forcibly married to Kong, and the Robins will be their bridesmaids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    That's not what happened at all. Even setting aside the fact that it was a mental thing not a physical one, Neron ewremained in control of his body after that


    Again that's not what happened. He was moved through time each time, rather than actually tank the explosion. In any case that would simply constitute an outlier with rest of Byrne era (though this was technically after Byrne left the books) even if taken at face value


    Ugh John Stewart has also beaten Superman, in fact around the same time if we're going by "who did what against whom" rather than actual feats

    Are you implying Superman's punches are more powerful than a supernova?


    Not everything that happened after COIE is consistent with his power levels after COIE, and in cases like the Pre Death of Superman, Nu 52, Rebirth etc there's a big difference in power levels over the time periods mentioned where the character is out right given a power boost (post Death of Superman), specifically a different character (Nu 52 before the merger) or a composite (Rebirth)

    So while stuff like pre Death Superman surviving the sun eater might be ok for Rebirth Supes, within the context of the story itself (when he also gets KOd by a nuke, in the same story) it's inconsistent with regards to his power levels at that time
    First, In dematteis cosmology souls=energy, what makes you think this just a mental thing? The comic never mentioned it so please not using your imagination to adding some never happened stuffs to the comic
    "i'm actually experiencing another plane of reality!disease doesn't just happen on the physically level...it begins in the aura....the energy field....and then moves down the doy from there...and these...."superman" are thought-forms of the astral world!"
    https://i.imgur.com/Z3TpJd2.jpg
    "you're a discarnate soul,a thing of spirit,energy"
    https://i.imgur.com/4YGtzWO.jpg
    "as a green lantern you learned all about the uses of will,didn't you?how,in concert with imagination,it can harness energy--and manifest miracles"
    "then i free you from your self-imposed limitations"
    https://i.imgur.com/4YGtzWO.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/73onWvz.jpg
    "you see,existence itself is nothing more than energy"
    https://i.imgur.com/fCX9Mng.jpg

    Second, He is withstanding enough energy to through time which pointed by linear man and we saw him been actually hurted by the explosion, Again, you just using your imagination to adding something never mentioned or happened in comic

    Third, John beating superman was in GL rebirth and he was using attack superman's inner system rather than straight attack, And since Superman can use his hand to containning a black hole which could destroy entire solar system, Why Superman's punches are more powerful than a supernova is a problem?

    Edit, Demttais superman withstanding a devouring universe black hole and through time one-shotted a universes death, So in Superman man of tomorrow supes could one-shot neron's infinite realities was not surprise
    https://imgur.com/TkH96Ji
    https://i.imgur.com/ASFlFbm.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/WNqFvwx.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/vyt8SGp.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/3p7oCqZ.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/nj8y9EA.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/yKSRAD3.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/dJ3Ma65.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/tbUDzyA.jpg
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    Read the rules. It'll help in the long run.
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    This is not going to end well...

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    what makes you think this just a mental thing
    Because this is literally all just happening in Superman's mind. Neron had control over his body and all this achieved was finally kick Neron out (although the reason cited has more to do with purity and emotion). If all "smashing Infinite Realities" does is break free of mind control, it isn't much is it?

    https://i.postimg.cc/tChngYzx/image.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/pddmkkMf/RCO037.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/cL0gt0D5/image.jpg

    Second, He is withstanding enough energy to through time which pointed by linear man and we saw him been actually hurted by the explosion, Again, you just using your imagination to adding something never mentioned or happened in comic
    The whole thing is suspect as we saw Superman KOd by simply an atomic bomb, but also pulled out of the explosion before actual impact. Unless Atomic bomb is = Sun eater explosion that's the story itself contradicting your claims
    https://i.postimg.cc/QxXKHjYY/RCO017.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/CMCfhR7f/image.jpg

    But even if what you're saying is actually true, that just means, considering you are otherwise arguing for Supes being capable of smashing through infinite Realities, a really low showing if he's KOd by "just" a sun eater explosion. Is he sun eater explosion level or infinite realities level?

    Third, John beating superman was in GL rebirth and he was using attack superman's inner system rather than straight attack,
    then why didn't he use a move that had already worked (non lethally) rather than a non useful move? PIS

    And since Superman can use his hand to containning a black hole which could destroy entire solar system, Why Superman's punches are more powerful than a supernova is a problem?
    Why is Superman even getting hurt by sun eater explosions if even one of his punches is equal to solar system busters? Why does he have difficulty at all with black holes, which he does, requiring John's help even in that case ultimately, when he can smash infinite realities? Why does he get knocked out by a supernova even AFTER all this (Braniac saga)

    There appears to be no consistency to your arguments. If Superman can indeed

    So in Superman man of tomorrow supes could one-shot neron's infinite realities was not surprise
    one shot infinite realities and a universe's death, him having difficulty at all with black hole level stuff contradicts your own argument
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    Because this is literally all just happening in Superman's mind. Neron had control over his body and all this achieved was finally kick Neron out (although the reason cited has more to do with purity and emotion). If all "smashing Infinite Realities" does is break free of mind control, it isn't much is it?

    https://i.postimg.cc/tChngYzx/image.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/pddmkkMf/RCO037.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/cL0gt0D5/image.jpg
    Either you are avoiding my scans or just ignoring that souls = energy this part
    This story Superman is in his astral form and I already posted souls = energy in dematteis cosmology
    https://i.imgur.com/yrX7kmn.jpg

    The whole thing is suspect as we saw Superman KOd by simply an atomic bomb, but also pulled out of the explosion before actual impact. Unless Atomic bomb is = Sun eater explosion that's the story itself contradicting your claims
    https://i.postimg.cc/QxXKHjYY/RCO017.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/CMCfhR7f/image.jpg
    Stop put misinformation, Supes not koed by the Atomic Bomb even in your own scan he is been throughout a time vortex, Hell, later linear man even blew up the moon to let Superman goes back where/when him belong
    https://i.postimg.cc/CMCfhR7f/image.jpg

    then why didn't he use a move that had already worked (non lethally) rather than a non useful move? PIS
    Because Superman not really wants fight with john due to he didn't know john been possessed by parallax, And most JLA/JSA members not realize that too so they koed by john

    Why is Superman even getting hurt by sun eater explosions if even one of his punches is equal to solar system busters? Why does he have difficulty at all with black holes, which he does, requiring John's help even in that case ultimately, when he can smash infinite realities? Why does he get knocked out by a supernova even AFTER all this (Braniac saga)
    Because different writers, And if we using comics logic there still have a explanation:Superman's power was related to his emotions which pointed by ruin
    https://i.imgur.com/FcqjQcM.jpg

    one shot infinite realities and a universe's death, him having difficulty at all with black hole level stuff contradicts your own argument
    Again, Different writers but even we looking into comics itself there still have a explanation: Superman's power was related to his emotions
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    So, are you arguing Post Crisis Superman is a universe buster +?

    Also, what is all of this cosmology talk? The scans you post have sayings like "vague thought" and "wisp of spirit" and so forth. "Thought forms" dont seem particularly comparable to real tangible versions of themselves imo. Like astral plane stuff at best.
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    Our war would yield countless dead
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    And like discard our wrath
    Thou, in faith, will keep us safe
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