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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Well cap had problems with WS and corvus glaive but did pretty good against Ironman so I really don't know.
    Assuming you mean movie Civil War that I haven't watched, and I also know different media incarnations aren't interchangeable, but well original CW (from the same writer that influenced the cinematic Avengers) is the story where he famously eats Iron Man's full punch to the face and a thruster powered body charge to his back and afterwards only needs to recover like Rock in a Fast and Furious movie skirmish. Just wondering here.

    Thing with Goblin is, being conceptually tied with giving any kind of physical trouble/hell to Spider-Men has always also tied him to total superhuman status, similar to symbiote people. Even in Dark Reign comics that mostly avoided his Goblin persona, he impaled Swordman with his own weapon and threw him out the building just having a momentary psychotic break.

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    Thing about the Iron Man fight is that it was very favourable to Cap on every level. Iron Man is focused on taking out Bucky, and just eating shots from Cap without really answering. He gets hit by his own blast, deflected and later gets double teamed. That's without mentioning the SMvFL of Cap holding Tony's leg and keeping him from flying before disabling a booster. Cap can hold back a helicopter while juiced on adrenaline but he's not holding Iron Man suits that previously helped support a multi-ton SHIELD carrier full of people in AoU or can thrust enough to break the sound barrier.

    He would have won in the end anyway with all that going against him, except for being startled at the end. Unlike Tony, Norman will not hold back against Cap and won't be distracted by his hateboner for Bucky. In fact put him at the end of civil war and I think he takes both Cap and Buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Well cap had problems with WS and corvus glaive but did pretty good against Ironman so I really don't know.
    If by did pretty good against Iron Man, you mean he needed Tony to be completely distracted with attempting to kill Bucky that he ignored Cap most of the time giving Steve all sorts of opportunity to attack him, and even then still needed a assist from Bucky at the very end to eek out a win and limped away from the battle all battered and bruised, than yes, Cap "did pretty good against Iron Man."

    Come on, no one is going to buy that Cap is anywhere close to Iron Man's level.

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    Also, Civil War Iron Man's armor had previously been unharmed from having multiple cars dropped on it, and War Machine basically ignored being caught in a fuel truck explosion. Yet somehow, Bucky (who was shown to be stronger in his mechanical arm than Cap was with both arms during his escape scene, and vastly weaker than Spider-Man with said arm) and Cap working together were somehow able to take that armor apart with brute Force, right up until Iron Man decided to take Cap seriously and beat him like a drum with AI enhanced fighting skills.

    I mean, seriously, Bucky being able to throw the shield hard enough to embed it into an APC (I think; maybe it was a regular vehicle?) in The Winter Soldier was depicted as being something very impressive in The Winter Soldier, yet somehow a guy significantly weaker than Bucky's metal arm is able to use that same shield to tear off chunks of a decent Iron Man?

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    So that fight was SvF pretty much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    So that fight was SvF pretty much?
    Yeah. A serious, non-distracted Iron Man tears them both apart pretty easily.

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