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    Default Silver Surfer vs. The Avengers & X-Men

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    Norrin versus:

    Thor (current Thor)
    She Hulk
    Iron Man
    Cyclops
    Storm
    Emma Frost
    Magneto
    "So full of hate were our eyes
    That none of us could see
    Our war would yield countless dead
    But never victory
    So let us cast arms aside
    And like discard our wrath
    Thou, in faith, will keep us safe
    Whilst we find the path"

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    Even with speeds equalized, I still don't believe there's anything stopping Norrin from opening up a Black Hole (Emma isn't mind-zorching him easily, if she even can, and nothing anyone else can do will actually stop him from 'Black Hole Surprise!'), which at a 100' range should eliminate pretty much everyone on the other side PDQ.

    ...also the city (planet? Black Hole size depending), so I guess if everyone is in character, it's not his goto. But if we have bloodlust? Sure!

    I'm curious to hear other people's opinions, mind. ^_^
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    Surfer is at "ignores Hulk stomping on his head" and "is at the epicenter of a planet/moon destroying explosion and is unbothered" levels of durability. Not to mention the TP resistance, and Current Thor (IIRC) can't compete esoterically, even with speed equalized.

    So ... I feel like Arby posted an unintentional stomp
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    I'm just looking at the fastest possible way for him to win this.

    And yeah, a large number of these people wonder what they're even doing here. Cyclops, Storm, Iron Man, She-Hulk...when Magneto is starting to say 'Hm, maybe this is the wrong fight for me', you know someone is outclassing a whole lot of people on the other side.

    At least Emma can hold up her hand and say 'Well, Telepathy? I could try...give me enough time and I might get him to blink or cough or....' But Scott just looks at Surfer and giggles 'No way, man.'
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    Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran

    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
    - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    I'm just looking at the fastest possible way for him to win this.

    And yeah, a large number of these people wonder what they're even doing here. Cyclops, Storm, Iron Man, She-Hulk...when Magneto is starting to say 'Hm, maybe this is the wrong fight for me', you know someone is outclassing a whole lot of people on the other side.

    At least Emma can hold up her hand and say 'Well, Telepathy? I could try...give me enough time and I might get him to blink or cough or....' But Scott just looks at Surfer and giggles 'No way, man.'
    Eh ... I mean I'd probably grant Surfer telepathic resistance enough to make Emma have to work for it to mess with him enough to stand a chance ? At which point there's a black hole in New York City.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Eh ... I mean I'd probably grant Surfer telepathic resistance enough to make Emma have to work for it to mess with him enough to stand a chance ? At which point there's a black hole in New York City.
    Absolutely. That's pretty much what I'm saying. He tends to bounce that kind of crap. Emma, with enough time, might do something?

    She doesn't have that time. If the Surfer gets pressed, Magneto's shield isn't stopping him from fragging Emma, even assuming Norrin doesn't go with opening a Black Hole.

    ...at which point it'll be fun watching Thor shouting 'Verily, this doth suck!' alongside Erik frantically screaming 'MAGNETS!' at the top of his lungs as they try to fix that problem before it kills all their side.
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    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
    - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

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    But if we have bloodlust? Sure!
    We do as default.

    Eh ... I mean I'd probably grant Surfer telepathic resistance enough to make Emma have to work for it to mess with him enough to stand a chance ? At which point there's a black hole in New York City.
    Moondragon with the mind gem has full out mindblasted the Surfer, an earlier move of doing so having completely messed up Xavier. He just got back up. The Surfer has a pretty solid bumper crop of mental/spiritual resistance performances.

    Nothing really stops him from just opening up a singularity here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    All 616 comics. New York.
    Reaction and travel speeds equalized


    Norrin versus:

    Thor (current Thor)
    She Hulk
    Iron Man
    Cyclops
    Storm
    Emma Frost
    Magneto
    No feats for Odinson's post War of Realms gear, but he has never matched Norrin for durability so while he, Jen, and Bucket-Head Red are brought to their knees among the corpses of the rest of the team the vaguely scuffed metal dude gets in some more shots.

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