Kindred Speculation

[Jman27]

I really don't know who Kindred supposed to be. I can't think of anyone that close to Peter. Are we supposed to get his identity next issue?

[Batman Begins 2005]

I thought Ezekiel Sims. Other names I've seen brought up: Jason Macendale, Gwen Stacy, Ned Leeds and a Peter Parker.

[NC_Yankee]

I really don't know who Kindred supposed to be. I can't think of anyone that close to Peter. Are we supposed to get his identity next issue?

Here is another possibility: Richard Fisk aka The Rose could be Kindred and came back from Hell like Mysterio. Why? Mephisto is behind it all. Fisk is directly connected to his dad Wilson Fisk aka Kingpin and was in Hell with Mysterio. Maybe the deal is Fisk takes revenge on his patents in exchange for making Pete and MJ pay for breaking the deal?

[Hugo Strange]

Richard recently appears in a good position in Hell in Damnation: Ghost Rider. It's a possibility.

[Hugo Strange]

Kindred must be someone who died before the Civil War, when Quentin came out of hell (probably before Mysterio's death in Guardian Devil)

Macendale is a strong candidate.

[Michael Watkins]

it could be Ezekiel but, to have real impact, it would have to be someone from the early days of Spider-man's story or someone within his (or MJ's) social circle. and I still think that we're all just ignoring Ned Leed's warning about Betty. it would be weird to just have him show up, have lunch with Aunt May, and then be buried alive. was it done to tie up a loose end? or was it a hint at something? Kindred is overly familiar with Spider-man. that much I can say with certainty. he calls him 'Pete' instead of the more formal 'Peter.' only Peter's friends call him 'Pete.' even Betty Brant called him 'Peter' in those early days. then Kindred loses it when Peter reveals his secret identity to Felicia Hardy. I don't know who Kindred is. but I know enough to rule out some characters.

[Michael Watkins]

Here is another possibility: Richard Fisk aka The Rose could be Kindred

he's too much of a loser. he wouldn't be calling Spider-man 'Pete' either.

Kindred must be someone who died before the Civil War, when Quentin came out of hell (probably before Mysterio's death in Guardian Devil)

Macendale is a strong candidate.

he lacks any and all obsession with Peter and MJ. Macendale would not be that interested in Peter's personal life.

[Celgress]

...he lacks any and all obsession with Peter and MJ. Macendale would not be that interested in Peter's personal life.

Agreed, I think Macendale can safely be disqualified as a suspect after this issue.

[wleakr]

I see some interesting guesses, but surprised not to see this one:

Kindred = Flash Thompson

You heard it here first!

[Michael Watkins]

I see some interesting guesses, but surprised not to see this one:

Kindred = Flash Thompson

You heard it here first!

people guessed that in the last thread. It wouldn't make any sense. and Flash wouldn't have been resurrecting Mysterio from death or making deals with Wilson Fisk.

[Vegeta]

Kindred looked a lot like Doctor Octopus with how the centipedes were positioned on panel. Did they ever explain what happened to Otto's corpse after it was dug up? (Was it the Jackal? I pretty much forgot everything that happened in "Clone Conspiracy." )

[Snoop Dogg]

FACTS ABOUT KINDRED

-He's male

-He used to be a real human

-He only cares about Peter

-He's likely been dead since before Guardian Devil, so last century

-He could be Ben or George

-He's probably an original character related to important continuity because Spencer is smart

HIS NAME IS

spoilers:

Gorr was right.

end of spoilers

[Yvonmukluk]

Kindred looked a lot like Doctor Octopus with how the centipedes were positioned on panel. Did they ever explain what happened to Otto's corpse after it was dug up? (Was it the Jackal? I pretty much forgot everything that happened in "Clone Conspiracy." )

I suppose you could argue he might be the original Doc Ock who got killed by Kaine during the Clone Saga (I believe the Master Programmer was explicitly a backup of him that got implanted into his body).

[Somecrazyaussie]

I've felt for a longtime that Kindred might actually be Dennis Carradine. Because Kindred has ties to Quentin and has obviously singled him out from all the other deceased villains he could have resurrected for a reason. The pair of them were involved in a storyline that ran between 198 and 200.

He also has some history with Fisk. Fisk and the Burglar also appeared in an issue prior to that in 197.

He also has attacked Peter personally by having Mysterio fake May's death and he also tied up Peter with the intention to kill him. He also killed Uncle Ben.

Peter confronted The Burglar as Spider-man in 200. He hounded and tormented him in order to get revenge on him for what he did. Peter revealed his identity to him and told him how The Burglar was responsible for him becoming who he is as a hero. The shock of that knowledge caused him to die from a heart attack. Peter didn't hang around either. He just set off a fire alarm and left the body to be discovered.

The Burglar was unrepentant in life. So he would have ended up in hell.

Ben Reilly also, at one point, dated his daughter, Jessica.

But the big tell is Kindred saying, "You and me. The way it should have been from the beginning." The Burglar was there at the beginning.

The Burglar is a mirror to Peter. He represents his selfishness and failure. Hunted was all about holding a mirror up to Peter. It showed him being forced to take action and do something he didn't want to do. The situation with the Burglar is the reverse, because it highlights what happens when Peter choses inaction.

Also, wasn't the loot he was originally after at the Parker residence eaten by silverfish and other insects. That money is what drove the Burglar. Finding it was his main goal. The insects in this look more like Silverfish. Not Centipedes.

Carradine knows about how much Ben's death affected Peter. Because Peter told him outright before his fatal heart attack. Peter's weakness has always been his fear of failing his loved ones. What better person to break Peter, and what Spider-man stands for, than the one man whose actions directly contributed to him becoming who he is.

[Nathan84]

I've felt for a longtime that Kindred might actually be Dennis Carradine. Because Kindred has ties to Quentin and has obviously singled him out from all the other deceased villains he could have resurrected for a reason. The pair of them were involved in a storyline that ran between 198 and 200.

He also has some history with Fisk. Fisk and the Burglar also appeared in an issue prior to that in 197.

He also has attacked Peter personally by having Mysterio fake her death and he also tied up Peter with the intention to kill him. He also killed Uncle Ben.

Peter confronted The Burglar as Spider-man in 200. He hounded and tormented him in order to get revenge on him for what he did. Peter revealed his identity to him and told him how The Burglar was responsible for him becoming who he is as a hero. The shock of that knowledge caused him to die from a heart attack. Peter didn't hang around either. He just set off a fire alarm and left the body to be discovered.

The Burglar was unrepentant in life. So he would have ended up in hell.

Peter also, at one point, dated his daughter.

But the big tell is Kindred saying, "You and me. The way it should have been from the beginning." The Burglar was there at the beginning.

The Burglar is a mirror to Peter. He represents his selfishness and failure. Hunted was all about holding a mirror up to Peter. It showed him being forced to take action and do something he didn't want to do. The situation with the Burglar is the reverse, because it highlights what happens when Peter choses inaction.

Also, wasn't the loot he was originally after at the Parker residence eaten by silverfish and other insects. That money is what drove the Burglar. Finding it was his main goal. The insects in this look more like Silverfish.

Yes, Jessica. But it was Ben Reilly who dated her.