Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
Each of those times require specific circumstances is all the same the thing. That's not his baseline or anywhere near it in those continuities.
But it shows what he can achieve, enhanced by technology. So a better version of him,explicitly more powerful, beating MMH isn't really out there, despite the loss of the earlier version to Maxima, because ultimately he keeps upgrading to reach universal levels eventually
Okay, the problem with this again, you qualified that with "J'onn up until that point." So it puts a qualifier on "which J'onn couldn't". It's an issue that you are putting a lot on this one showing where you're also qualifying the other people in it.
I meant J'onn at the time when Maxima beat Braniac and his showings at that time (pre DoS). Subsequently the J'onn that Braniac outperformed was already a Xavier level telepath
Okay, let me put that another way then, do you feel Maxima could no longer do what she otherwise did to him? That if they mind fought she'd lose?
Yes