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  • Reveal all/most of the run was a psychic illusion.

    7 6.93%
  • Reveal all/most of the run was a dream.

    0 0%
  • Reveal all/most of the run was a virtual reality/Danger Room sequence.

    2 1.98%
  • Reveal all/most of the run was a non-canon What If? story.

    4 3.96%
  • Time travel undoes what happened.

    2 1.98%
  • Reality warping undoes what happened.

    30 29.70%
  • Someone will use magic/science/mutant powers to heal/resurrect everyone.

    15 14.85%
  • Some other kind of retcon (please elaborate).

    4 3.96%
  • Nothing is undone. Everything sticks.

    37 36.63%
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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee911 View Post
    He deserves the blame for not writing a good book nobody is denying that but what needs to be noted was not a easy assignment. I think with proper context people will be a just a tad more forgiven I think. It seems he is writing" the last X-men or last days of the X-men story" with understanding that everything he writes won't stick. He got to write a X-men book where multiple characters actually got to die,something that does not happen often because companies are protective of their properties. So far this seems like one of these stories where everyone dies and time travel or other plot device reset everything. With that context his whole run probably doesn't matter and all the characters dying don't mean anything just like Twilight final battle

    He is not going to stick the landing for fans here let's not even pretend that is going to happen but he is writing story that doesn't matter because Hickman is clean slating the X-men franchise. So fans feeling ultimately don't matter good or bad it wasn't carrying over. He wrote Dark Souls,Multiple man and Astonishing well so we know he can write but tying those plots to this story was probably the big mistake but I don't blame for closing out his plots before the franchise complete changes and wipes his stories. I mean for example someone put in a long term plotline about a mutant not really being a mutant and we honestly are never going to see it. Age of X-man books and Uncanny X-men were lame duck books especially when Hickman announcement hit. They were lame duck books in the fact Hickman is changing the style of the X-men and certain storytelling styles might not be viable anymore. He wrote a bad story but anybody in this situation would have had a tough time.
    But what did he exactly had to wrap up from before? Only the NM getting rescued and removed the Warlock, but that could have happened in one issue. He had the perfect opportunity to do a character based run, since he had the perfect excuse to use a smaller cast, and also say something meaningful about the franchise, but he chose to go in the exact opposite direction. While Hickman was always taking over, if he did a great job, he surely would have fans want to know what he's doing next, in the X-men franchise or elsewhere.

    And I don't think he would benefit from more issues. He seems to be the kind of writer that, if he had, say, 30 issues, he would stick 50 issues of plot there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee911 View Post
    I just think atmosphere with Hickman run coming up kills any meaningful story from being a possible.
    That implies a story can only be meaningful if it's followed up by other writers, and it would be impossible to tell a meaningful one in, say, an out of continuity or alternate future book. And, like I said, if Rosenberg wrote a good story that fans loved, he probably would get another chance in an X-book or elsewhere.

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    "Writer A's book is bad because Writer B was gonna take over anyway" is a rather horrid take.
    "Cable was right!"

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    Horrid and idiotic.

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    Has anyone ever considered the possibility that everything Rosenberg has done is in service of setting up Hickman's run? Like a literal "I don't care how you do it, but these things need to be in place and these people need to be gone when Hickman gets here."

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    Wow, some of those votes. A ton of people think things are gonna stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Has anyone ever considered the possibility that everything Rosenberg has done is in service of setting up Hickman's run? Like a literal "I don't care how you do it, but these things need to be in place and these people need to be gone when Hickman gets here."
    He said outside of “extremely minor story beats” he told them nothing of his story and never gave anyone notes. The amount of people dead and changes made feel like they’re more than minor story beats that Rosenberg had to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Has anyone ever considered the possibility that everything Rosenberg has done is in service of setting up Hickman's run? Like a literal "I don't care how you do it, but these things need to be in place and these people need to be gone when Hickman gets here."
    Why would Hickman want the likes Wolfsbane and Chamber dead? He could just not use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    "Writer A's book is bad because Writer B was gonna take over anyway" is a rather horrid take.
    More like he crammed +20 issues of story on 12, without make some adaptations

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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    He said outside of “extremely minor story beats” he told them nothing of his story and never gave anyone notes. The amount of people dead and changes made feel like they’re more than minor story beats that Rosenberg had to hit.
    Yeah... but hickman is also a massive liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Yeah... but hickman is also a massive liar.
    Well we have Chris Robinson, the assistant editor of Uncanny saying there was no editorial mandate in this book. So that's 1 writer & 1 editor who have said similar things.

    So hopefully none of this will matter in Hix-Men because most of it sucks.

    Example, Rosenberg killed off Sabretooth. But Sabretooth is with Mystique in HOX.
    Hix-Men7.jpg

    So chances are, most of this stuff is probably not sticking. As mentioned, Emma also has a full head of hair in Hix-Men.
    Last edited by Silver Fang; 07-04-2019 at 08:40 AM.

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    Rosenberg should doubledown and go out with a bang. He’s in way too deep, so just have fun with it. This includes Dani and Scott kissing btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Well we have Chris Robinson, the assistant editor of Uncanny saying there was no editorial mandate in this book. So that's 1 writer & 1 editor who have said similar things.

    So hopefully none of this will matter in Hix-Men because most of it sucks.

    Example, Rosenberg killed off Sabretooth. But Sabretooth is with Mystique in HOX.
    Hix-Men7.jpg

    So chances are, most of this stuff is probably not sticking. As mentioned, Emma also has a full head of hair in Hix-Men.
    yeah. good catch on sabertooth

    other thing is that Rosenberg had this planned for a year. so uncanny probably have little to do with hickman, if it allgn to it, it was intentional on rosenberg part not because hickman or editorial asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    Rosenberg should doubledown and go out with a bang. He’s in way too deep, so just have fun with it. This includes Dani and Scott kissing btw.
    Wasn’t last issue doubling down enough? He killed at least 3 characters and depowered at least 2. I’m not sure how much worse him doubling down would get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    Rosenberg should doubledown and go out with a bang. He’s in way too deep, so just have fun with it. This includes Dani and Scott kissing btw.
    Ah yes. Kissing your ex’s former student.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Well we have Chris Robinson, the assistant editor of Uncanny saying there was no editorial mandate in this book. So that's 1 writer & 1 editor who have said similar things.

    So hopefully none of this will matter in Hix-Men because most of it sucks.

    Example, Rosenberg killed off Sabretooth. But Sabretooth is with Mystique in HOX.
    Hix-Men7.jpg

    So chances are, most of this stuff is probably not sticking. As mentioned, Emma also has a full head of hair in Hix-Men.

    Doesn't Sabertooth in canon have better healing factor than Wolverine? I'm pretty sure he can walk off a decapitation.

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