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    Default Which characters have outgrown the X-men and deserve to move on?

    The question speaks for itself. Who should move on and shine within the rest of the Marvel Universe?

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    I would say all characters who were treated better in books outside of it.

    • Storm
    • Cyclops
    • Emma
    • Sabretooth

    These are the first that come to mind. All of whom had better runs in outsides books than anything in the X-books recently.

    • Black Panther
    • Champions
    • Jessica Jones
    • Iron Fist / Black Widow

    Respectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    I would say all characters who were treated better in books outside of it.

    Storm
    Cyclops
    Emma
    Sabretooth

    These are the first that come to mind. lol All of whom had better runs in outsides books than anything in the X-books recently.
    You think so? I feel like Cyclops' entire life is the X-Men. He is the one characte the franchise has a believable lock on.

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    I always thought X-23 really didn't fit well with them, at least past her X-force era.
    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    You think so? I feel like Cyclops' entire life is the X-Men. He is the one character the franchise has a believable lock on.
    I mainly put him given word from his fans. Right now, he's back on Uncanny where he's treated as the man who just ruins everyone's life and is never right. But hearsay says he's much more confident & better handled in Champions than he is in Rosenberg's Uncanny. And given the X-Office track record, I could easily believe that.

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    sunfire is fire namor and this silly franchise doesn't even realize it, to the avengers he goes

    boom-boom would fucks with the gotg so hard

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    I odn't think any X-person has outgrown the X-men, but there a quite a few I'd like to see not be completely tapered by the franchise.

    Like I'd have no problem with magik just hanging out with Mystic marvel for a couple years.

    Domino could legit have a not insignificant run with Black Widow's Spec Ops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    I mainly put him given word from his fans. Right now, he's back on Uncanny where he's treated as the man who just ruins everyone's life and is never right. But hearsay says he's much more confident & better handled in Champions than he is in Rosenberg's Uncanny. And given the X-Office track record, I could easily believe that.
    That probably speaks more about the state of the X-books currently than whether or not ANY character has outgrown the X-Men. As it currently stands, I'll let Gary Oldman run down the list of characters who would be better off in books outside the X-office.



    I'm hoping things look better after Hickman's run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    I mainly put him given word from his fans. Right now, he's back on Uncanny where he's treated as the man who just ruins everyone's life and is never right. But hearsay says he's much more confident & better handled in Champions than he is in Rosenberg's Uncanny. And given the X-Office track record, I could easily believe that.
    With the correct writer, they could do a really strong series of Champions with Scott as their Mentor Figure.

    This page sold me on the idea.


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    I think Illyana should become Dr Strange's backup/ongoing apprentice and move to his book for a while. Let her really explore the magical side of the MCU.

    I would love it if Illyana got to be Sorcerer Supreme for a while, even if it's a 6 issue or 12 issue run.

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    I think storm outgrew x-men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    That probably speaks more about the state of the X-books currently than whether or not ANY character has outgrown the X-Men. As it currently stands, I'll let Gary Oldman run down the list of characters who would be better off in books outside the X-office.



    I'm hoping things look better after Hickman's run.
    I can agree, but sadly with the X-Office, there's just some characters they won't ever do good by. Because they don't see the appeal of said characters & don't care.

    On another forum. Less active than here, so I am only occasionally there. The War of Realms lead to a topic about Creed's villain status, and someone made this post about how to go about making him work again.
    Quote Originally Posted by InsipidLust
    If they want to make Sabretooth work again, they need to move him into Marvel’s street level titles and play up his psychopathy and murderous competence. He really doesn’t fit in an X-Men universe where logically speaking on the strength of powers and training alone, probably 60—75 percent of characters could mangle him as a matter of light work.

    Put Sabretooth in Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Spider-Man or something and he can shine easily. Make him an adversary of Storm, Jean Grey, Psylocke as she is now, Polaris, and hell even people like Surge, Hellion, Armor and pretty much a team full of people whose powers have grown (and sometimes their competence, though the X-Men are often big morons despite years of experience) and what can we expect?

    Sabretooth is a product of his time, existing well before decades of power creep. The X-Men have a much different order of concerns than anything that should be of any real consequence to someone like Sabes at this point anyway, since his beat should really be more along the lines of crime, money and murder and theirs tends to be “what are we going to do about today’s horrible state of the world?”

    He’s not a bad character. He’s in the wrong place.
    I can agree. it's sad it comes to this, but this is the case for him if he stays with the X-Men. Hickman's scans don't show him in good light either.. Lol

    Storm is mostly wallpaper, and if not that, she's been depicted as barely competent. Then she was shown to be a terrible X-Men leader in recent years when that wasn't the case some time ago. Emma was apparently given more depth & noble traits in Jessica Jones, instead of the bi-polar psycho she's been for some years now. In Iron Fist & Black Widow, Creed was actually treated with respect.
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    Storm and Nightcrawler. I think NC would do great in the Avengers and Storm could do with a BIG change, like being more heavily entrenched in Wakandan mythology, doing stuff with Asgard, going to space, or leaning into the godhood thing. She has so much potential but she's been domesticated to a house cat. Colossus has, too, but I don't know where else he'd be useful and not just be iconic wallpaper. Perhaps--like Kitty--the X-Men have outgrown him.

    Emma has also outgrown the X-Men but I think she should stay in the X-Books while dabbling in the greater MU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelboy1974 View Post
    The question speaks for itself. Who should move on and shine within the rest of the Marvel Universe?

    STORM


    that is all.....

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