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    I think DC needs 2 Poison Ivys; one anti-heroine for Harley and one as villainess for the Bats.

    If DC had done their research, they could have simply brought back Honey Suckle from the junior Super Foes.

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    You know, I've said this elsewhere...But I feel that the relationship to Harley was quite a double edged sword to Ivy, good or evil. Originally in BTAS where the couple started, it was clear that whatever the girls were doing Pam was the brains of the operation and Harley was basically the sidekick (wasn't there a comic where the latter tried to work for Two Face for a bit?). For the past decade or so, she seems to be no more than Harley's girlfriend...

    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    I think DC needs 2 Poison Ivys; one anti-heroine for Harley and one as villainess for the Bats.

    If DC had done their research, they could have simply brought back Honey Suckle from the junior Super Foes.
    Heck they could have even used Rose/Thorn (Though I guess she's a teenager now?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    I think DC needs 2 Poison Ivys; one anti-heroine for Harley and one as villainess for the Bats.

    If DC had done their research, they could have simply brought back Honey Suckle from the junior Super Foes.
    Seasonal Affective Disorder. 6 months anti-heroine and 6 months villainess.

    If they can afford to make it more complicated than i'd like to see her in Heroic Spring, Anti Heroic Summer, Villainous Fall, Amoral Winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepmaster View Post
    Seasonal Affective Disorder. 6 months anti-heroine and 6 months villainess.

    If they can afford to make it more complicated than i'd like to see her in Heroic Spring, Anti Heroic Summer, Villainous Fall, Amoral Winter.
    Gail Simone used Seasonal Affective Disorder, and yours is a neat idea, but all that requires DC to be consistent of their portrayal, instead of changing stuffs based on perceived customer trend or whatever the writers/executives want at the time

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    The Villainous scientists who hates kids and is an ecological extremist.

    The hating kids part doesn't have to make her evil. I just think a lot of women are happy being childfree forever and it's cool when they have a character with that trait.
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    The best way to have Ivy being evil make sense is too make her have a cold scientific view of the world.

    Someone who believes in taking the best method to better the environment even if it includes unethical practices. Someone who doesn't purposely try to help or hurt anyone but simply takes the best course of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    Gail Simone used Seasonal Affective Disorder, and yours is a neat idea, but all that requires DC to be consistent of their portrayal, instead of changing stuffs based on perceived customer trend or whatever the writers/executives want at the time
    I think years down the line, Ivy would be written as anti heroine. But for now i'd say there is still a lot potential good stories for her as a villain against Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    Someone who believes in taking the best method to better the environment even if it includes unethical practices. Someone who doesn't purposely try to help or hurt anyone but simply takes the best course of action.
    Sure a men killing machine on a regular basis and a mass poisoner on an irregular basis. Thats Ivy's brand of villainy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    The Villainous scientists who hates kids and is an ecological extremist.

    The hating kids part doesn't have to make her evil. I just think a lot of women are happy being childfree forever and it's cool when they have a character with that trait.
    Except "hating kids" it flatly incorrect. Some of the most important Poison Ivy stories has her basically running Robinson Park as an orphanage. She did it in No Man's Land, and similar themes can be seen in Gotham Central 32 and other stories. The Cycle of Life and Death had her search of and raising children of her own as a key theme.
    «Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])

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    Villain without the green skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Skeleton View Post
    Villain without the green skin.
    Agreed. Either the classic DCU version or the BTAS version would be fine with me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    [center]Agreed. Either the classic DCU version or the BTAS version would be fine with me.

    #poisonivyisawineauntconfirmed
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