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    Quote Originally Posted by titanfan View Post
    It's funny that they added a whole "Sacrifice for Family" theme for the Chinese Audience. They changed Mu-Shu to a Phoenix instead of a Dragon etc. They made a whole bunch of changes to pander to the American Audience and Chinese audiences still hated it.
    The animated version was more "Sacrifice for Family" the live version was more "Be yourself"

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    Mulan in the live action version is basically one of the 'supers' who were forced to go into hiding in The Incredibles.

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    Yahoo says not so fast. More like between $60 to $90m on plus!

    Data gathered this weekend appeared to hold seismic news for Hollywood—specifically Disney. A report from Yahoo suggested that a shocking 9 million Disney+ users had streamed the studio’s Mulan remake in its first 12 days of release, translating into a gross of $261 million. That’s a staggering number for an on-demand rental and for an industry that’s been struggling through pandemic-related cinema closures. If Disney can make that kind of money without American theaters, does it need American theaters at all?

    he only problem is, Mulan didn’t actually make $261 million in 12 days. Yahoo had misinterpreted numbers from an analytics firm that estimated Mulan’s viewership, and the firm’s co-founder clarified that grosses were more likely $60 million to $90 million—well below the movie’s reported budget of $200 million. Not only does it seem that Mulan made modest sums in the United States (though Disney has yet to release official numbers), but the movie also had a disappointing theatrical rollout in China. Another grand experiment by Hollywood in the COVID-19 era, another flop. As the end of 2020 draws near, studios still haven’t figured out a sustainable way to bring their most expensive blockbusters to audiences.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/...ndemic/616433/

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    now , if disney had made a comedy and called it 'mulandylady' , it would be raking in millions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Yeah, from the various reviews I've seen of it (including several Chinese reviewers), the film was pandered to a stereotypical view the West has of China (with the people in charge of the film all being decidedly not Chinese). Aside from that, many also found it boring. The Chinese reviewers weren't completely surprised Wu Xia was put in (the flying martial arts super powers), but most everything else was pretty bad.
    I'm wondering if that will have any consequences for Shang-Chi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal88 View Post
    now , if disney had made a comedy and called it 'mulandylady' , it would be raking in millions.

    Loved Kung Fu Hustle! Over the top humor, great fight scenes, yet some good dramatic and tense moments.

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    And now mulan is reporting to dropped to $7 on disney plus! It's heading to itunes, vudu, and the other streaming sites also! (and you keep these without having to pay $8 a month to keep your $30 film and will lose if you drop disney plus!)

    So yahoo's report it did awful on disney may be true! Ouch!

    https://www.cnet.com/news/mulan-disn...e-amazon-vudu/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    And now mulan is reporting to dropped to $7 on disney plus! It's heading to itunes, vudu, and the other streaming sites also! (and you keep these without having to pay $8 a month to keep your $30 film and will lose if you drop disney plus!)

    So yahoo's report it did awful on disney may be true! Ouch!

    https://www.cnet.com/news/mulan-disn...e-amazon-vudu/
    It doesn't seem to be true at all...and it's not dropping to 7 dollars, it's still 30 and it will be the same on the other platforms...it's just widening its release to make even more money which is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    It doesn't seem to be true at all...and it's not dropping to 7 dollars, it's still 30 and it will be the same on the other platforms...it's just widening its release to make even more money which is normal.
    It should fail. It needs to fail. Thanking people who run concentration camps is a bridge too far. Hell, the bridge too far was 50 miles back a this point.

    Even if Mulan was the greatest film of all time it needs to fail. Mass murder, forced marriage, rape, organ harvesting and you thank the people perpetrating these acts?

    No. That is evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrvc View Post
    It should fail. It needs to fail. Thanking people who run concentration camps is a bridge too far. Hell, the bridge too far was 50 miles back a this point.

    Even if Mulan was the greatest film of all time it needs to fail. Mass murder, forced marriage, rape, organ harvesting and you thank the people perpetrating these acts?

    No. That is evil.
    It's not going to fail...in fact it's already a run away success. It is what it is at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    It's not going to fail...in fact it's already a run away success. It is what it is at this point.
    Money wise, maybe. At least until/unless Disney actually releases what it made.

    Critically, both in China and in the US, if for very different reasons, its an absolute bust. China has several versions of Mulan films already, and better made. US (and other Western fans) overwhelmingly prefer the 1998 version for having better characters (Mulan herself on down).

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    We’re Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle hits in China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Money wise, maybe. At least until/unless Disney actually releases what it made.

    Critically, both in China and in the US, if for very different reasons, its an absolute bust. China has several versions of Mulan films already, and better made. US (and other Western fans) overwhelmingly prefer the 1998 version for having better characters (Mulan herself on down).
    Even critically it's about the same as previous live action adaptations, with most negative user reviews being negative due to not liking the transnational nature of the release or for political reasons rather than the merits of the film.

    I don't understand people's desire to die on this hill. I mean, I get it, I'd rather more creative films too but it's a business which means they follow the money and right now that means these remakes are the call of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrvc View Post
    It should fail. It needs to fail. Thanking people who run concentration camps is a bridge too far. Hell, the bridge too far was 50 miles back a this point.

    Even if Mulan was the greatest film of all time it needs to fail. Mass murder, forced marriage, rape, organ harvesting and you thank the people perpetrating these acts?

    No. That is evil.
    Unfortunately America is in no moral superior standing at this time to criticize anything.

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