Does anyone hate MCU films?

[capNthor]

I could only find one article that misused the term cancelled by an amateur contributor who started writing about pop culture less than a year ago after writing for Deli Express for years while living in China.

People freaked out they didn't mention Spider-Man 3, and those who only saw headlines freaked out they didn't officially announce BP2, CM2, and GOTG3. It seems Ant-Man is the only ongoing franchise people might not be invested in to see more of out 11. What a horrible legacy! That said the last one made nearly four times its budget with an 88% RT score. Its still likely to get another one its just not a priority.

[Beaddle]

What does that even mean?



The story threads of IM2 were wrapped up already and Tony's PTDS built on the events of the Avengers movie.

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I didn't know he had PTSDs in Iron Man 3, its rarely a plot in the film. Bruce Wayne had PTSDs in The Dark Knight Rises, I remembered that because it took up 2/3 of the story. When I said it didn't feel like a follow up, I was talking in terms of growth. Iron Man 3 was when Marvel started to loose it. Things started getting very childish.

It just collects reviews and nots the positive percentage of the ones sampled. No more, no less.

So I was correct that it has no real impact on films. It was this movie review website fad that has faded out like Myspace.

Not really answering the question.

The comics are the best, movies should every now and then should try to be as good as 70% of the comics.

Which has nothing to due with any future X-Men movies that get made; different franchises with their own styles, own creative teams, etc.

Isn't it marvel studios making X-Men? If marvel studios had their own style, X-Men won't have looked too different.

So, why aren't they unhappy with the '90s cartoon doing it? (From a practical standpoint, altering Magneto's origins to not be tied into WWII does avoid a lot of plot holes in regards to why he's still kicking in the modern era and it's not like there's any shortage of oppression since that could be used instead.)

The 90s cartoons did it.



I have said it on x books if they remove that, reboot xmen is already lesser than X-Men 1. I can't say I am surprised you see things this way as you still don't know why Uncle Ben is necessary in a Spiderman movie.

Maybe, but you're missing the point; Guardians accomplished similar levels of character development with far less material then they did.

Many star trek fans thinks of GOTG as brainless movies, I remember when they all lashed out at the first star trek beyond trailer for having a beastie boys soundtrack, Trekkies accuses Paramount of trying to turn Star trek into GOTG. Rogue One got some backlash when there were rumors Disney wanted a GOTG approach.

It's a franchise that was a smash hit. What's wrong with that?

People care more about that

Really? It was a pretty well-liked movie.

No,not Captain Marvel. Marvel got scared she was going to ruin Endgame, they had to reshoot the movie. Turns out that Carol didn't ruin the movie as much as fat thor.

You lost me.

Movies and TV shows doing feminism wrong.

[Star_Jammer]

I didn't know he had PTSDs in Iron Man 3, its rarely a plot in the film. Bruce Wayne had PTSDs in The Dark Knight Rises, I remembered that because it took up 2/3 of the story. When I said it didn't feel like a follow up, I was talking in terms of growth. Iron Man 3 was when Marvel started to loose it. Things started getting very childish.

You need a plot point to be focused on for 2/3 of a movie to understand that it's there?

I...I just don't know, man.

[Amadeus Arkham]

Movies and TV shows doing feminism wrong.

.....Can you please put the kibosh on this ridiculous discussion already? It’s really derailing the thread. I think it’s clear this debate you’re having with this poster is going nowhere and you guys are never going to agree so why not simply just quit replying to him and agree to disagree? I don’t mean to play internet hall-monitor since I’m no mod but this has gotten tedious.

[sunofdarkchild]

Iron Man 3 has Tony experience multiple panic attacks, ongoing nightmares, and turns his armor-making into literal OCD. He's so traumatized by what happened in Avengers 1 he feels completely helpless and vulnerable every second he isn't in the Iron Man suit. His symptoms are all rather classic PTSD symptoms. Dark Knight Rises - Bruce has depression and a death-wish, but he doesn't really display symptoms of PTSD. We don't see him experience nightmares or panic attacks, there are no trigger warnings that set him off.

This is Tony's third anxiety attack in the movie.

[WebLurker]

.....Can you please put the kibosh on this ridiculous discussion already? It’s really derailing the thread. I think it’s clear this debate your having with this poster is going nowhere and you guys are never going to agree so why not simply just quit replying to him and agree to disagree? I don’t mean to play internet hall-monitor since I’m no mod but this has gotten tedious.

You know what, you're absolutely right.

[luprki]

Alan Horn should let MCU directors have creative control. The MCU would be much better if the director’s vision was allowed.
Edgar Wright tried this, but he escorted out the door fast.

[Star_Jammer]

Alan Horn should let MCU directors have creative control. The MCU would be much better if the director’s vision was allowed.
Edgar Wright tried this, but he escorted out the door fast.

This assumes all director's have good visions, all the time...

[WebLurker]

Alan Horn should let MCU directors have creative control. The MCU would be much better if the director’s vision was allowed.
Edgar Wright tried this, but he escorted out the door fast.

This assumes all director's have good visions, all the time...

Yeah, anyone can be wrong. Even the producers overseeing the show can be wrong, but, unlike the work-for-hire director, they do know the overall plans for the franchise in question. Balancing act, if you ask me.

[Rincewind]

Alan Horn should let MCU directors have creative control. The MCU would be much better if the director’s vision was allowed.
Edgar Wright tried this, but he escorted out the door fast.

Do you honestly think Alan Horn is micro managing the MCU movies? By all accounts, he's hands off.

Ike Permutter and the "Creative Committee" were known for demanding changes to the story that made Edgar Wright walk. And they've been removed from the process since 2016.

[luprki]

This assumes all director's have good visions, all the time...

That’s not the point, but I guess we’ll never find out

[Coal Tiger]

Alan Horn should let MCU directors have creative control. The MCU would be much better if the director’s vision was allowed.
Edgar Wright tried this, but he escorted out the door fast.

Much better for who?

[Star_Jammer]

That’s not the point, but I guess we’ll never find out

Yes, that was your point (unless you somehow phenomenally failed to communicate your actual point). That directors should allow to see their visions through, and the MCU would be better for it.

So you're assuming that all directors have good visions, all the time.

Because out of all the 15+ directors that the MCU has gone through, all of them had perfect visions for their respective films, and the man was just puttin' them down, right? And none of them had a shitty idea(s) that was shot down, right?

[Midvillian1322]

Do you honestly think Alan Horn is micro managing the MCU movies? By all accounts, he's hands off.

Ike Permutter and the "Creative Committee" were known for demanding changes to the story that made Edgar Wright walk. And they've been removed from the process since 2016.

Not the mention James Gunn , Taika, Dickerson, and The Russos have all talked about how much creative freedom they are given by Feige and the MCU.

[Star_Jammer]

Not the mention James Gunn , Taika, Dickerson, and The Russos have all talked about how much creative freedom they are given by Feige and the MCU.

We don't know exactly how many times "My creative freedom was limited" really meant "My ideas sucked, and I was the only one that liked them".

"Creative freedom" isn't inherently a good or bad thing, as far as quality is concerned.