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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Disclaimer haven't read the issue yet, so maybe it's explained, but while most of these make a damn good deal of sense, I can't help but wonder at the thought process between the weapons. Brute Force seems like a decision made between hits of cocaine.

    "Alright our last two weapons turned the tide of the biggest war in history, where do we go next?"

    "Dolphins that can hold uzis"

    "...Brilliant!"

    Though maybe they just had to work their way back up to humans post Cap.
    That would be my guess as well although what happened during Wolverine Vol.2 #1000 could also explain why the Weapon Plus project went with animals experimentations for Weapon II.

    In 1945, Logan decided to infiltrate a Nazi facility in order to take down the man responsible for the death of his unit: the General Wolfram. This guy was experimenting on Nazi soldiers and was turning them in werewolves thanks to a "Super Soldier" serum he created. Logan stopped him and was about to kill him but Fury stopped him saying he needed this psycho alive for the Weapon Plus program:





    So yeah maybe Wolfram joining the Weapon Plus program influenced them to go with animal experimentations for Weapon II after seeing his "success" with werewolves. I'm reaching a little here though lol, I'm sure the most logical explanation is what you've said.


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    "Codename: Tyrannosaurus."

    I don't know about the rest of you, but when I hear "Tyrannosaurus," I can't help but think, "It's morphin' time!"

    More seriously, I wonder how Cap is gonna deal with the knowledge that he was intended to be the first in a line of mutant-killing superweapons.
    Lmao at the Power Rangers reference! He didn't take it very well in this issue, but yeah he was always supposed to be the first of many until the whole thing was twisted like norj said.

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    The concept is cool but you aren't supposed to think about to hard or you see the flaws in concept. Basically every single Weapon project they basically forgot the process or else they would be tons of them running around not to mention combining some of these projects make for some very interesting stuff Luke Cage project was done before wolverine so imagine Wolverine with Unbreakable Skin(could wolverine pop his claws if he had unbreakable skin). So the guess these programs where run independently of each other which would explain it better. Which still means

    Weapon Plus board meeting,Report your projects

    Team A " We created a Peak Human"

    Team B " We created man with unbreakable skin"

    Team C " We created killer Kangaroos and Dolphins"

    Team D "We created power psy....."Stop"

    " Did you say Killer Kangaroos? We are going to have cut Team C funding"

    As explained by Fantomex, the programs weren't contiguous, they were concurrent:



    Which could explain why the programs didn't share their notes.
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    So do I need to read Ve'Nam before this?
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    Makes you wonder if the Power Broker had any connection to Weapon Plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    So do I need to read Ve'Nam before this?
    It's a really good one shot, so yeah give it a try!

    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Makes you wonder if the Power Broker had any connection to Weapon Plus.
    Now this could be interesting!

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    This reveal is as disappointing as DC’s map of the multiverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    So do I need to read Ve'Nam before this?
    You need to, but only because it's really good, with some stellar artwork by Juanan Ramirez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    So do I need to read Ve'Nam before this?
    Is pretty much the best Wolverine story (even when is not really about him), so....yeah you need to.
    "Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
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    Jessica Drew would have been cool to be on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan52 View Post
    Jessica Drew would have been cool to be on that list.
    ^

    This. The thought that went into this list was a first draft.

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    Weapon VIII is most likely the Green Goblin and his many knockoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Weapon VIII is most likely the Green Goblin and his many knockoffs.
    Well Millar did establish that Norman had some connection with a nebulous organization in the past, but i doubt that it has anything to do with this, but who knows, Marvel is not above retconing stuff. His knock off probably has nothing to do with it thought, most of those guys just found Norman's gear and formula by accident and went up for there, no shady organization involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan52 View Post
    Jessica Drew would have been cool to be on that list.
    Wouldn't that tie-in the High Evolutionary to the Government or did they change Spider-Woman's origin?
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    Okay, can someone explain this...how can Luke Cage, who is Weapon XI, predate Wolverine?

    At the time when Luke Cage gained his indestructible skin, wasn't Logan already running around as Wolverine, an agent of Department H?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Weapon VIII is most likely the Green Goblin and his many knockoffs.
    Cant be, 8 and 9 were mentioned as their first try using mutants. Unless norman is a mutant it can't be him, im going with a first attempt at a mutant strike team like what weapon X was

    Quote Originally Posted by bat39 View Post
    Okay, can someone explain this...how can Luke Cage, who is Weapon XI, predate Wolverine?

    At the time when Luke Cage gained his indestructible skin, wasn't Logan already running around as Wolverine, an agent of Department H?
    11 and all members of minuses (except -7) are unknown. As for why cage has a lower number, all programs started and ended at different times and the names are just the most popular member of that program. cage being weapon 6 just means the weapon 6 program was still active after weapon X concluded.rember x was a strike team of mutants (not just logan).
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    Quote Originally Posted by norj View Post
    Weapon VIII is most likely the Green Goblin and his many knockoffs.
    Green Goblin was the result of Osborn working by himself though unless that was retconned too.
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