Age of X-Man Omega Preview

[loke13]

leaving the shipping debate aside (please, that is so complicated, it always derails everything not for the better)
Cable does have Jean's DNA and was raised by her since he was a baby, Jean just didn't give birth.

I mean considering Jean's reaction to Cable's murder I can't imagine why people don't think she considers him her son.

[KangMiRae]

she isnt dating a mass murderer nor will likely be doing so in the near future

That’s where you’re wrong.

Jean Grey x Punisher is happenin’!

[fsger]

So some characters faults count but others don't, right.

[Drexelhand]

Read "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" Jean spent over a decade in the future raising her son. It came out shortly after the 2 got married in the 90s.


After Rachel/Mother Askani took Cable into the future, they were still unable to treat him. They had assess to Ship who they used to keep him alive. Then they decided to clone Nathan because they weren't sure if they could truly save Nate. Then Apocalypse attacked, killed Mother Askani, and took Stryfe who he believed to be the real Nathan Summers. Using what power she had left, Rachel pulled Scott and Jean into the future where they raised Nathan as their son.


This is one of the reasons why Jean always gets more emotional over Cable than Rachel who she never raised.

I guess, for some people, it goes down to how much Cyclops does consider his daughter as opposed to Jean. In the X-Men/Alpha Flight, he kind of figures it out and he gives her fatherly advice at the end (and it later turns out she'd starting keeping him psychically oblivious to her), in Days of Future Past, Jean's reaction to her is vitriolic and Cyclops' is just like "why didn't you tell me?", later even telling Jean, "would it really be bad to have Rachel as your daughter?". Then, in the Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix that you mentioned, Jean kind of doesn't really interact with Rachel whereas Cyclops has a whole scene dedicated to apologizing for not being the father she wanted him to be (which was kind of her fault what with making him psychically forget and all). He straight up tells her, "I just wanted you to know... how very proud I am to have been your father." After Jean dies and Rachel takes the name Grey, Cyclops is understanding and knows she's angry at him when she starts calling him Scott instead of 'dad' and he consoles her after all of the Greys are killed. Even Teen Cyclops makes a point of mentioning that he is Rachel's father.

So, I guess the crux of the issue is, Jean has never been written as Rachel's mother but Cyclops has always been written as her father, just as he's been written as Cable's father and Nathan Grey's father. Jean is completely Cable's mother and she's Nathan's mother too (given Disassembled and issues in the original X-Man), but her moments with Rachel have been far and few (before/during the wedding and Red).

Hell, during Days of Future Present, it was implied that the 811 Timeline had adapted to Kelly's assassination given that Ahab had mentioned chronal changes so at that point, Jean was still set to marry Cyclops and have Rachel with him. Then, of course, Claremont left and it became an alternate universe.

[comeatmebro]

I mean considering Jean's reaction to Cable's murder I can't imagine why people don't think she considers him her son.

Jean hasn't had good writing in a long time so its hard to imagine anything positive with her at all

[spirit2011]

Jean does look like anything being with Bishop in world where people are being brainwashed to be honest and attaching feelings Jean has never shown is pointless. The X-men world comic world is screwed up with thing that can never happen and trying to get inside of people heads doesn't work like people think. For example Why is Jean going to be super caring about daughter from another dimension and future kid of her clone with the man who cheated on her and seems to move on pretty quickly after she "dies"? If we are going throw out wild theories on peoples feeling lets do it right. Someone think Jean looks bad kiss Bishop because "her family". To which you have ask what family? Son of her clone? Adopted daughter of the son from her clone? the son with man who cheated on her? We are taking about that family? Jean grey regular host of entity that has killed Billions is going to be mad at someone going crazy who killed Billions. Did her former husband go crazy with same entity and killed their mentor .The Granddaughter shot Grandfather in the eye? Father put out an order to a team to kill his son if necessary while protecting said granddaughter?

Some people need to get out of their feeling and stop reading into stuff that is not there.because this is comics and their is whole lot of silly stuff we can talk about

The family is very disfunctional. Let's not pretend they are the perfect family

[fsger]

Doesn't mean that trying to kill them for years is a good thing.
That turns off people even in the most dysfunctional ones.

[spirit2011]

Well, if it gets in the way of Jean dating a mass murderer, then it should be downplayed.

Jean won't ever date Emma. I think everyone can be very relieved about Jean dating mass murderers

[Drexelhand]

Jean won't ever date Emma. I think everyone can be very relieved about Jean dating mass murderers

But will Jean date herself? There isn't a bigger mass murderer on the X-Men.

[spirit2011]

But will Jean date herself? There isn't a bigger mass murderer on the X-Men.

There is a good explanation for that

[PsychoEFrost]

There is a good explanation for that

There are "good' explanations for all of the horrible things each X-character has done. You tend to ignore or downplay the ones that go against your characters.

[spirit2011]

There are "good' explanations for all of the horrible things each X-character has done. You tend to ignore or downplay the ones that go against your characters.

Jean was brainwashed and abused. And was under Phoenix, taht was a recipe for destruction

[CoCoBandz]

Doesn't mean that trying to kill them for years is a good thing.
That turns off people even in the most dysfunctional ones.

Jean and Bishop are a match made in heaven.

[Harpsikord]

What was the order to read this and Uncanny 22 again that was suggested?

[fsger]

Jean and Bishop are a match made in heaven.

Nah, it was on earth on the Marvel offices. They dind't care much about Jean though, it was all about proping Bishop.
Even if Jean looks like a terrible mother with genocide fetich.