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    Default JAMES BOND: Lashana Lynch (MCU's MariaRambeau) to be next 007??? Whattya think?

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    A new report indicates Bond 25 will introduce Captain Marvel's Lashana Lynch, who played Maria Rambeau in that film, as a new 007, though as a character entirely distinct from James Bond.

    A source speaking to the Daily Mail said the movie would start with Daniel Craig's James Bond retired in Jamaica when M calls him for help. "There is a pivotal scene at the start of the film where M says 'Come in 007', and in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman," the source said. "It's a popcorn-dropping moment. Bond is still Bond but he's been replaced as 007 by this stunning woman."

    The source added, "Bond, of course, is sexually attracted to the new female 007 and tries his usual seduction tricks, but is baffled when they don't work on a brilliant, young black woman who basically rolls her eyes at him and has no interest in jumping into his bed. Well, certainly not at the beginning."

    The source also added the phrase "Bond girls" had now been replaced by "Bond women."

    Series producer Barbara Broccoli said in October the Bond would probably never be female. However, this report is certainly intriguing, as it would mean the person using the codename 007 would change, not Bond himself. Bond 25 will be actor Daniel Craig's last turn as the character. The actor has played the character since 2006's Casino Royale.

    So, what do you think of this development, if true?

    Should the "007" name be passed along like a mantle as they do in comics? Or should "007" be retired once James Bond is no longer using it?

    Has anyone read the original books? What was Ian Fleming's intention with "007"?

    I did not see Captain Marvel, and I don't think I've ever seen anything Lashana Lynch has been in. Is she a good enough actress to spearhead a major movie franchise like this, or would her taking on the role of 007 make you lose interest in future movies of the franchise?

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    To clarify, she's NOT the new "James Bond." She's the new "007." Basically Bond's retired at the start of the movie, MI6 needs someone to replace him, and she's it.

    It's similar to Judi Dench's M dying and Ralph Fiennes replacing her as the new "M." Only Bond's not dead, just retired.

    Bond himself even says in Casino Royale that "00's tend to have a very short life expectancy" or something along those lines. Also pretty much all of the other 00's that we've seen in previous films have tended to die. So I imagine that they need to recycle numbers after awhile.

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    People need to read before they post things and go on twitter. 007 is codename. James Bond is the most famous agent to have that codename. In the film Bond is retired, meaning the codename 007 is inactive and can be assigned to a new agent. Lashana Lynch's character is assigned that codename while James Bond is not an active agent.

    In the books, James Bond becomes a **** agent after his wife dies and he gets assigned a different number 7777 in You Only Live Twice. The number itself isn't crucial to the character being James Bond. I HIGHLY DOUBT that the film series will go in any direction that doesn't have the character of James Bond as a lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    People need to read before they post things and go on twitter. 007 is codename. James Bond is the most famous agent to have that codename. In the film Bond is retired, meaning the codename 007 is inactive and can be assigned to a new agent. Lashana Lynch's character is assigned that codename while James Bond is not an active agent.

    In the books, James Bond becomes a **** agent after his wife dies and he gets assigned a different number 7777 in You Only Live Twice. The number itself isn't crucial to the character being James Bond. I HIGHLY DOUBT that the film series will go in any direction that doesn't have the character of James Bond as a lead


    So, if James Bond is still the lead in the series after Craig leaves, but is NOT 007, we would now have two leads in the next movie. James Bond, Agent XXX and Lashana's character, Agent 007.

    It doesn't sound like EON Productions would add this unnecessary complication.

    Alternatively, if they are going for a spinoff franchise like they were trying to do 20 years ago with Halle Barry's Jinx character, then there shouldn't be much fan backlash, but again, is Lashana Lynch enough of a star to lead a franchise like this?

    Would fans WANT to see a James Bond who is NOT 007? James Bond, Agent 7777 might pull people out of the story too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comic-Reader Lad View Post
    So, if James Bond is still the lead in the series after Craig leaves, but is NOT 007, we would now have two leads in the next movie. James Bond, Agent XXX and Lashana's character, Agent 007.

    It doesn't sound like EON Productions would add this unnecessary complication.

    Alternatively, if they are going for a spinoff franchise like they were trying to do 20 years ago with Halle Barry's Jinx character, then there shouldn't be much fan backlash, but again, is Lashana Lynch enough of a star to lead a franchise like this?

    Would fans WANT to see a James Bond who is NOT 007? James Bond, Agent 7777 might pull people out of the story too much.
    Alternatively Bond rejoins Mi6 and becomes 007 again at the end of the movie to reset the status quo in time for the new Bond, or they find a way for their to be more then one 007.

    Lynch is supposed to be the main Bond girl and with this being as upfront as it is I don't see them taking her out.

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    Sounds like a one-movie plot contrivance to me. Not necessarily a bad thing, but there's no reason to suspect this represents some new status quo for either Bond or 007.

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    She could die, or she gets another codename once Bond takes his back (there are like nine 00's going by Thunderball after all). So there are possibilities. They're not going to make James Bond films without James Bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Alternatively Bond rejoins Mi6 and becomes 007 again at the end of the movie to reset the status quo in time for the new Bond, or they find a way for their to be more then one 007.

    Lynch is supposed to be the main Bond girl and with this being as upfront as it is I don't see them taking her out.
    I think you're spot on - this is their way of having a "Bond Girl"(or evolving the concept) without being a "Bond Girl" and all the antiquated notions that come with that term.

    Ever since Pierce Brosnan and Dame Judy M they've been throwing out the idea that James Bond is a dinosaur - this just follows the modern trend of how to treat his character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comic-Reader Lad View Post
    So, if James Bond is still the lead in the series after Craig leaves, but is NOT 007, we would now have two leads in the next movie. James Bond, Agent XXX and Lashana's character, Agent 007.

    It doesn't sound like EON Productions would add this unnecessary complication.

    Alternatively, if they are going for a spinoff franchise like they were trying to do 20 years ago with Halle Barry's Jinx character, then there shouldn't be much fan backlash, but again, is Lashana Lynch enough of a star to lead a franchise like this?

    Would fans WANT to see a James Bond who is NOT 007? James Bond, Agent 7777 might pull people out of the story too much.
    I don't think Lashana Lynch is going to retain the 007 codename beyond this film. I don't think she will play a character that ever becomes the lead of this series. It's more likely a plot point of this single film and won't extend much beyond it. Maybe they can try the spinoff thing again.

    To be honest I don't think it works without Bond. He's the character that carried what will be 25 films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    People need to read before they post things and go on twitter. 007 is codename. James Bond is the most famous agent to have that codename. In the film Bond is retired, meaning the codename 007 is inactive and can be assigned to a new agent. Lashana Lynch's character is assigned that codename while James Bond is not an active agent.

    In the books, James Bond becomes a **** agent after his wife dies and he gets assigned a different in You Only Live Twice. The number itself isn't crucial to the character being James Bond. I HIGHLY DOUBT that the film series will go in any direction that doesn't have the character of James Bond as a lead
    I've always thought this was the way to do it. Make a Agent 007 spin off series. Every 4 or 5 movies we get a new person getting the 007 code name. And then spin them off or bring them back as new agent numbers. And then let James Bond rest for a bit. Absence does make the heart grow fonder and eventually after 5 or 10 years bring James Bond back to reclaim the 007 code name.

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    i'm not offended-- but if stuff like this is "for real", I'm wondering how convenient it is to be leaked now. Until proven otherwise, I'm skeptical.

    We'll just have to see how this unfolds. In the meanwhile, have at it, reactionaries.

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    Anyone can be a Double O or 007 so this doesn't bother me at all I'd rather add a new Double O than change the Bond Character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comic-Reader Lad View Post
    https://www.cbr.com/report-lashana-lynch-007-bond-25/

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    So, what do you think of this development, if true?

    Should the "007" name be passed along like a mantle as they do in comics? Or should "007" be retired once James Bond is no longer using it?

    Has anyone read the original books? What was Ian Fleming's intention with "007"?

    I did not see Captain Marvel, and I don't think I've ever seen anything Lashana Lynch has been in. Is she a good enough actress to spearhead a major movie franchise like this, or would her taking on the role of 007 make you lose interest in future movies of the franchise?
    It sounds good. She is not replacing James Bond. she is one of the many 007s. I admit this looks like an original idea story.

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    The casting seems to make sense for the narrative. Bond is retired (which was where the last film was going) so why not have a new 007? This is a plot point that could suck or could work out fine, so it's difficult to judge it before the film comes out. The actress seems capable, a British woman who played an African-American fighter pilot in Captain Marvel.

    There is one potential concern with this decision, and that would be the extent to which the narrative may be limited due to a concern about left-wing blowback as people get invested in what the character means before we even see a clip of the movie. People on twitter are already worried about how she might be killed off. There will be a lot of think-pieces if she's a villain. If she's less competent than Bond, that will also be a problem. There's a delicate line to thread here that wouldn't apply with Tom Hiddleston in the role. Some movies have pulled that off (Mad Max: Fury Road) but it's likely a writing headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The casting seems to make sense for the narrative. Bond is retired (which was where the last film was going) so why not have a new 007? This is a plot point that could suck or could work out fine, so it's difficult to judge it before the film comes out. The actress seems capable, a British woman who played an African-American fighter pilot in Captain Marvel.

    There is one potential concern with this decision, and that would be the extent to which the narrative may be limited due to a concern about left-wing blowback as people get invested in what the character means before we even see a clip of the movie. People on twitter are already worried about how she might be killed off. There will be a lot of think-pieces if she's a villain. If she's less competent than Bond, that will also be a problem. There's a delicate line to thread here that wouldn't apply with Tom Hiddleston in the role. Some movies have pulled that off (Mad Max: Fury Road) but it's likely a writing headache.
    Honestly, the fact that the left-wing care about casting in a Bond film is pretty ridiculous if you really think about.

    If there is one franchise which is as conservative as you can imagine, its James Bond. This is a series about an agent of Her Majesties Government, completely loyal to Queen and Country, who travels across the globe killing Britain's enemies and bedding women - while presenting himself as the quintessential upper-class English gentleman.

    I don't really see what the left hopes to accomplish by demanding changes to the Bond franchise. I mean, wouldn't the simple fact that he's a government agent who acts with impunity be against their left-wing ideals. The franchise is never going to be 'woke' the way they wanted to - the very essence of the franchise is as far from being 'woke' as possible.

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