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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    So everyone rrrrrrhate Cyclops for 8 years up until this very issue where Moonstar blames him for everything and accuses him of only caring about Jean and Logan, but then Scott makes out with Jean and suddenly everyone likes him again and does a money shot with him (including Moonstar!).

    Anyway, JDW saying this ends the Extinction era that started in 2005 (rather than Resurxion era which would make slightly more sense) sort of explains why this run pretended to take place right after Schism/AvX.
    That explains why Logan was just standing there during that porno makeout like some sad puppy even though he told Storm he was over Jeannie?

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    Top 5 moments from Rosenuncanny anyone?

    - Kwannon showing up out of NOWHERE with no explanation to behead Joseph (who was running a new brotherhood just because) and then disappearing out of thin air again with no explanation
    - The X-Men invading another nation's territory and killing off soldiers to give a new land for the Morlocks to live on (???)
    - Sinister just randomly popping up at the X-Men's door like "hey" and then turning into MEGA-Sinister
    - Hope murdering that senator in cold blood with 0 repercurssion <3
    - Chamber's death scene... I'm still not over how comically bad that entire thing was

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    I’m gonna miss coming up with explanations of how horribly written the deaths were and how easy it was for the character to just not die.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nandes View Post
    Top 5 moments from Rosenuncanny anyone?

    - Kwannon showing up out of NOWHERE with no explanation to behead Joseph (who was running a new brotherhood just because) and then disappearing out of thin air again with no explanation
    - The X-Men invading another nation's territory and killing off soldiers to give a new land for the Morlocks to live on (???)
    - Sinister just randomly popping up at the X-Men's door like "hey" and then turning into MEGA-Sinister
    - Hope murdering that senator in cold blood with 0 repercurssion <3
    - Chamber's death scene... I'm still not over how comically bad that entire thing was
    -Cyclops got his REDEMPTION.
    I mean that's the point of the whole book.
    "I think what's been messed up about Cyclops is that he's the guy who believes. Charles has a dream, he believes in an idealized world. It's the other guy, the soul of it... that's who Cyclops is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    That was just another foul scene that threw his relationship with Emma under the bus ("I thought of you every single day" or something)
    But it's also not like it doesn't jibe with what we saw from the entire time that Jean was dead, going all the way back to Endsong.

    "I'll always love you, Jean Grey." "I'll always love you too, Scott Summers." - Scott Summers and Jean Grey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Your complaint is ironic bc Jean and Scott ended without any conversation. The resolution was very abrupt and unsatisfactory
    Yeah, because she died. And mind you, if that was unsatisfactory, doesn't mean the exact same thing should be done here. They chose literally the worst possible way to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
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    Anyway, JDW saying this ends the Extinction era that started in 2005 (rather than Resurxion era which would make slightly more sense) sort of explains why this run pretended to take place right after Schism/AvX.
    Like I've said, this run seems to be have been made for the sole purpose of showing how wrong Cyclops was that period, because someone can't let go most people were on Cyclops' side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    I’m gonna miss coming up with explanations of how horribly written the deaths were and how easy it was for the character to just not die.....
    It's tragic/funny how basically every review thread was filled with "hey, this is all going be revealed as dream right?" posts after another nonsensical plot happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    Yeah, because she died. And mind you, if that was unsatisfactory, doesn't mean the exact same thing should be done here. They chose literally the worst possible way to do it.



    Like I've said, this run seems to be have been made for the sole purpose of showing how wrong Cyclops was that period, because someone can't let go most people were on Cyclops' side.
    They kissed after being kept apart for years. What we saw here was a very natural reaction and it didnt need a whole conversation. Last time Jean sawn Scott, he died within 10 minutes. Scott comes back and before he can reunite with Jean, she is presumed dead. Given all that, why would they waste time embracing when they both know that time is limited and can be yanked up from beneath you? I see nothing wrong with the kiss. A conversation can come later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    They kissed after being kept apart for years. What we saw here was a very natural reaction and it didnt need a whole conversation
    Especially because they already had one. Plus, you know, telepathic rapport, etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    But it's also not like it doesn't jibe with what we saw from the entire time that Jean was dead, going all the way back to Endsong.
    Of course, thinking about her every day doesn't mean "I'm in love with you and want to be with you". I thought of some people I care about that died I don't know if every day, but quite often. It would be of course even more for Scott living with her friends and people that care about her, then literally a younger version of her.

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    Marvel is good at ending conflicts of years in two pages without giving it importance. Do you remember the Cyclops speech in Washington?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Marvel is good at ending conflicts of years in two pages without giving it importance. Do you remember the Cyclops speech in Washington?
    I know nobody at Marvel does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    Of course, thinking about her every day doesn't mean "I'm in love with you and want to be with you". I thought of some people I care about that died I don't know if every day, but quite often. It would be of course even more for Scott living with her friends and people that care about her, then literally a younger version of her.
    But it also doesn't not mean that. There are people who lose spouses that never really move on, and if they move on, they will still always love the spouse that died. Jean and Scott were together for twenty years collectively between them getting together as teens (twice), spending their young adult lives together, and raising Cable in the future. Of course Scott still loves and is in love with Jean, and I don't think Jean was ever not. But that also doesn't mean that there wasn't a time that Scott was in love with Emma.

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    So with all the deaths, are we just supposed to come up with our own explanation for how all or some of them come back from the dead? Hickman's story seems to jump ahead in time, and I doubt he's going to address something Rosenberg wrote after Hickman already came up with his story. I imagine it'll be like when Claremont came back the 1st time and he swapped Jean and Betsy's powers without ever showing or telling us how it happened. We'll just have to accept the new status quo and fill in the blanks ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    I know nobody at Marvel does.
    Marvel is trying even before that book was released (delayed for months) to forget that speech and that issue ever happened.

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