Darth Tyranus vs Kylo Ren

[MichaelC]

Darth Tyranus vs Kylo Ren

[MasterOfMagnetism]

Tyranus would definitely win, he has way more experience and skill. Kylo is too impulsive to defeat someone so strategic.

Also this should be in the Star Wars section.

[Godzilla2099]

This stomp isn't even funny (ok, maybe it will be)

Tyranus:
- was trained by the best Jedi and Sith (Yoda and Palpatine)
- decades of experience
- accomplished duelist
- accomplished strategist

Kylo Ren:
- Lost a lightsaber fight against people with zero experience with the weapon
- Loses his temper often. hesitates. irrational decisions
- His only real talent is force power. Little to zero good against somebody like Dooku who had formal training with it

[SuperiorIronman]

That's not as much a stomp as people would think.

Kylo Ren has it in the raw strength and he's established as being able to take a hit whereas Dooku is not. Dooku's biggest strength as a duelist is his speed in his strikes which makes him an accomplished "fencer", whereas Kylo Ren fights heavy handed but is willing to throw a punch in if it means continuing to do damage. Meaning that disarming him or lowering his weapon is going to mean jack since he isn't afraid of punching Dracula in the throat. There's also the issue of the lock since Kylo Ren does have the cross guard which is going to end much the same way Anakin ended up cutting off Dooku's hands. Kylo Ren is also as powerful as Luke or he's rather close to it. That strength was enough to scare Luke to a degree and has the potential to be as strong as Vader ended up. Lets not sell him short, Kylo Ren is up there.

The Prequel Jedi and Sith had the more advanced technique to take advantage of the lightsaber but in canon Vader even comments on their fighting style. They play the defensive which isn't enough for overwhelming force. They are on the attack less and Dooku was even trained in the technique.

Now Dooku does use lightning, which Kylo Ren (like everybody else) is vulnerable to, but Kylo Ren can freeze people.

It can go either way.

[ChrisIII]

I'm thinking it might've turned out like this (at the one minute mark).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du8HRf6pRVY

[Moon Ronin]

I would have to look to the fight between Anakin and Dooku's fight in AOTC and not the ROTS fight. I would believe that Ren would have about the same or make be even less training and ability of Anakin in that fight. Tyranus took out both Anakin and Obi-Wan and stood toe to toe with Yoda so at this point of Ren's training he would get trounced by Dooku. Yes Anakin did come back and destroy dooku but that was after a few years of fighting in a war and increased training and the analysis can change after the next movie but for now I'm of the opinion that it would be no contest.