Seiya, from Netflix's Knights of the Zodiac Saint Seiya series, takes on the DCEU incarnation of Wonder Woman. Who wins?
Seiya, from Netflix's Knights of the Zodiac Saint Seiya series, takes on the DCEU incarnation of Wonder Woman. Who wins?
So, I've not watched the Netflix show, but Seiya in the manga and stuff is like "I casually crack mach with my fists before I even get access to my real powers,"
If Netflix is even remotely in the same ballpark, I imagine Diana having issues.
Like chapter 1 Seiya learns to punch faster mach 1.
He also then punches the ground hard enough he makes like... a crater the size of a minivan.
That's from the word go. Once he gets his armour, he gets faster and fights dudes who do things like reverse waterfalls by dragon kicking them real good.
Again, I don't know the Netflix version, I watched the trailer on my lunch break there seems to be bullet timing and some level enhanced strength in there.
I've seen the first five episodes. It's not too different from what you describe (I want to watch the original anime but can't find it on-line. I thought I'd watch the Netflix series to tide me over).
For example in episode three Seiya defeated Dragon Long. That's this guy:
He did so by exploiting a gap in his attack to land strikes to his heart. Said gap lasted one one-thousandth of a second. That's how fast Seiya is.
Also in episode four he showed that his attacks can destroy military helicopters and Bullheads. Seiya can likewise withstand multiple attacks that can do the same.
There is.
All in all I'd say Wonder Woman gets washed.
Last edited by hareluyafan1; 07-23-2019 at 07:29 AM.
Isn't DCEU Wondie also a bullet timer?
Bullets break the sound barrier with boring regularity. The speed of sound is roughly 1125 feet per second at standard temperature and pressure (sea level). That speed will vary a bit depending on your elevation, climate and weather conditions, but not much.
She can scoot in a crouch across a floor blocking many dozens of these rounds by throwing her arms to intercept. I dont get the impression his speed would particularly overwhelm her.
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You're baiting me into harder numbers here.
Diana moving her arms the short distance to block bullets doesn't mean she has to move at literally bullet level speeds. In the scene with the guying trying to shoot the full auto, she has to move faster than he can track the barrel (way slower than mach or bullet speed) ad move her arms the much shorter distance to blocking than the bullet has to travel to get to her. It's a great speed feat but it's not evidence that she can move and react to something sentient that moves at that speed.
Seiya, prior to getting into his full powers with the armour, has to literally move his arms at fast than the speed of sound to do his most basic technique. That is faster than Diana has been shown to be.
My personal take is that she can react to him enough to be like "Oh, this is problem," but she ultimately can't keep up with him long term. I don't think it's like... a clean sweep exactly but Seiya has all the advantages here.
As noted though, this is going purely by the manga which I've read a fair bit of. The Netflix version might change things.
During the mercenary attack sequence, all of the knights were pretty casually making sure that the bullets only hit their armor. I don't think that Wondy has a speed advantage here.
Just for fun, I am going to keep playing devils advocate and giving you a hard time ;P
I've taken the liberty of slowing the terrorist gunman scene down and uploading the footage. I want you to pay special attention to the positioning of her eyes and face.
https://youtu.be/KSoHjFWE9uY
As you can see, she almost exclusively is staring down the length of the hostages and almost never at the gunman. Most of the bullets she blocks or pushes people out of the way from are being reacted to only when they pass into her narrow field of vision. She is not really staring at the gun and reacting to the bullets as they move the length of the room. She is literally reacting as they arrive - in some cases blocking while backwards or barely looking out of her peripherals. It's pretty ridiculous.
I don't think she has an advantage. I dont even think she is faster. Just not so much slower as to be overwhelmed. Not blitzed so much as just not having the winning edge.
My real argument is one of two things:
1- She eats a few blows to manage to get one crucial retaliatory sword strike in - rope a dope style maybe. Her tanking Ares initial explosion in the guard tower means she isn't getting put down in a single blow, but more like a string of combos. She might last long enough to use her range with the sword at least once. I doubt she loses 10/10 this way although she may lose the majority.
2- This is the less exciting fight strategy but the better odds of winning come from it. At 100 feet starting distance, she can spam her AoE and pin the guy down. Just keep it up while slowly closing the gap. I have NO idea how durable this dude is, but I get the impression it should start adding up.
He have any projectiles?
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Slightly off topic, how is the Netflix Saint Seiya?
I'm not a big fan of the animation style.