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    I created a thread on the rumbles forums X-men Omega level showdown you can debate your hearts out in the thread beware the rumbles forum has rules so no plot induced stupidity from characters and the highest consistent showing of feats from comics is what will determine a winner so arguing against that in beligrant way will probably get you banned. fair warning

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    I wanted to ask a question about the new Omega definition and Storm but I'm lowkey scared of opening the gates of Hell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I wanted to ask a question about the new Omega definition and Storm but I'm lowkey scared of opening a portal to Hell
    Understandably. But you can only ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee911 View Post
    I created a thread on the rumbles forums X-men Omega level showdown you can debate your hearts out in the thread beware the rumbles forum has rules so no plot induced stupidity from characters and the highest consistent showing of feats from comics is what will determine a winner so arguing against that in beligrant way will probably get you banned. fair warning
    That could get very messy. Ice, hail and girders all over the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I wanted to ask a question about the new Omega definition and Storm but I'm lowkey scared of opening the gates of Hell
    Ask. Believe me, you will get an answer.

    You could also ask on her appreciation thread.
    I've seen your end and it starts with you challenging me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I wanted to ask a question about the new Omega definition and Storm but I'm lowkey scared of opening the gates of Hell
    Ask away, babe. Storm has been to hell and back. We will make it out together.
    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    Ask. Believe me, you will get an answer.

    You could also ask on her appreciation thread.
    Definitely. You’re bound to get multiple answers.

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    No Storm fan is willing to take my offer? Go visit Killerbee's thread if you're willing to debate.
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    So, it's not a Storm attack or anything, but I just want to understand if I understood correctly.

    If I got it right from the whole comparison between Forge and Magneto being the best at their respective powers mutant-wise but Forge not being the best on Earth, shouldn't we take Thor into account when doing the same comparison for Ororo? With weather manipulation opposed to technopaty. It's not really only about Storm, one could also take Sersi against Exodus when it comes to TK.
    It's just that I'm not sure I got it right. Is Omega "not superable" by other means that are not that specific mutant power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    So, it's not a Storm attack or anything, but I just want to understand if I understood correctly.

    If I got it right from the whole comparison between Forge and Magneto being the best at their respective powers mutant-wise but Forge not being the best on Earth, shouldn't we take Thor into account when doing the same comparison for Ororo? With weather manipulation opposed to technopaty. It's not really only about Storm, one could also take Sersi against Exodus when it comes to TK.
    It's just that I'm not sure I got it right. Is Omega "not superable" by other means that are not that specific mutant power?
    Thor is more "manifestation" as opposed to Storm manipulating naturally occoring patterns. If he controlled the weather in the same manner Shaman did (using magic to affect natural weather patterns) then it would make more sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    So, it's not a Storm attack or anything, but I just want to understand if I understood correctly.

    If I got it right from the whole comparison between Forge and Magneto being the best at their respective powers mutant-wise but Forge not being the best on Earth, shouldn't we take Thor into account when doing the same comparison for Ororo? With weather manipulation opposed to technopaty. It's not really only about Storm, one could also take Sersi against Exodus when it comes to TK.
    It's just that I'm not sure I got it right. Is Omega "not superable" by other means that are not that specific mutant power?
    Storm can control more than just weather. That's probably why Thor isn't cancelling her omega status. As for Exodus, I guess he has stronger TK than Sersi.

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    seems like she can then. I love you so much. a great addition fo this forum.

    /closethread
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    Are you saying Storm can manufacture this phenomenon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    So, it's not a Storm attack or anything, but I just want to understand if I understood correctly.

    If I got it right from the whole comparison between Forge and Magneto being the best at their respective powers mutant-wise but Forge not being the best on Earth, shouldn't we take Thor into account when doing the same comparison for Ororo? With weather manipulation opposed to technopaty. It's not really only about Storm, one could also take Sersi against Exodus when it comes to TK.
    It's just that I'm not sure I got it right. Is Omega "not superable" by other means that are not that specific mutant power?
    I think this cuts to the heart of the definition. Using a human scale both Storm and Thor are transcendent, ie above measurement. It isn’t anything to do with being the best, just that the people on the list are by default better than those not on it.

    Functionally immeasurable is always above measurable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieOnTsunami View Post
    Thor is more "manifestation" as opposed to Storm manipulating naturally occoring patterns. If he controlled the weather in the same manner Shaman did (using magic to affect natural weather patterns) then it would make more sense
    But Thor's divinity is pretty much magic in the Marvel Universe. It's actually pretty similar to Shaman's.

    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    I think this cuts to the heart of the definition. Using a human scale both are transcendent, ie above measurement. It isn’t anything to do with bing the best, just that the people on the list are by default better than those not on it.

    Functionally immeasurable is always above measurable.
    So maybe it took human/earthly as a scale of measurement (otherwise if you open the comparison to all the Marvel Universe it gets quite tricky).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magneto View Post
    Storm can control more than just weather. That's probably why Thor isn't cancelling her omega status. As for Exodus, I guess he has stronger TK than Sersi.
    but she's an omega based on her ability to manipulate the weather, not any other abilities. Thats why Jean is only an omega for TP. The definition says primary power. It could very well be that both Storm and Thor are evenly matched in that there is no measurable defined limits to their power, similarly to Jean and QQ, therefore Thor wouldnt overrule her status

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    but she's an omega based on her ability to manipulate the weather, not any other abilities. Thats why Jean is only an omega for TP. The definition says primary power. It could very well be that both Storm and Thor are evenly matched in that there is no measurable defined limits to their power, similarly to Jean and QQ, therefore Thor wouldnt overrule her status
    True, I went back to page 1 after posting, but I didn't bother to edit.

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