I completely Forgot about Jean Pink Form. So, yeah I can agree. As for Polaris it sucks because as powerful as she is they will always put Magneto above her. She’s like stuck in her Fathers shadow. So, hopefully DoX does something great. Yeah, I wouldn’t mind seeing Rogue being an Omega given the feats she’s has done with power absorption. But Hope seems to have that power down pact.
Yeah, Hickmans classification for Storm is a head scratcher. But I think he placed that because controlling the weather comes with a lot of other things that she would have dominion over like the water manipulation and temperature etc.
I Fully don’t understand his reason in having two Omega Telepaths if he’s telling me that there can be only 1 in that domain of power. I don’t get it. If that’s the case Emma and Rachel should be right up there.
Your first paragraph doesn’t make sense. And if your saying what I think your trying to say, but in a poor way. I’m confident in telling you that your 100% wrong here.
But it’s not the truth. How can she have been lucky when majority of them couldn’t get to her due to her own powers. I mean I could say the same for the ladies you mentioned. Many of them could easily be killed if it wasn’t for the nature of their own powers. The same here applies for Storm. So, I have to say your wrong in that regard.
Your statement is very Vague. And that depends on who she is fighting. Useless? Is this your first time reading the X-Men? Lol Storm isn’t useless Not in the slightest. I can say a Super Strong person who is very resistant to Telepathy or can counter it would make Jean and Emma and Rachel useless. Heck Rogue would be useless fighting someone who is far more stronger than her. So, it depends who is the super strong person is. But Storm being useless? That’s not truthful at all.
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The Omega description doesn't say that...the example with Forge just means that his limits have been surpassed(but even if they haven't been, it should have said that his limits have been measured/observed)
The baseline definition is an upper limit that has not been measurably observed...both Jean and Quentin can fit that description despite having the same power (telepathy).
The description and examples given could have been better stated though. I prefer the original description of "unlimited potential" as it stands alone and doesn't invite comparisons, which can be confusing.
He really didn't fix the term or make it more useful, quite the opposite. Should have just left the definition alone and presented the list.
No. Storm never does well vs super strong. Against Jugg Hulk and others has always gone wrong. can't hurt them and almost always she ends k.o
she is very useful but against super strong she is doing badly .. she has faced thor also ends up defeated and k.o and not dead because she has had mercy and she knows how jines a villain.
with rogue when it was bad .. anna was literally laughing at her and her attacks that stopped them with their hands while laughing. and so I was just playing with them the storm solution was to get her out with a tornado to flee from there because I knew I couldn't with her. He literally had to run away before he came back.
with jugg .. I have to remember what happened the last storm that faced it ???
in the phoenix saga .. neither the defeat unnsuoee strong but uzar that is not the big deal a merry bald guy with a whip. Whip of a super strong good level is nothing.
She is great, but she is not very strong, or she has seen little use.
by the way she is omega for hickman not for all her powers but for water management .... not the complete climate
and no, hope does not hinder that rogue can be named omega because his powers work very differently. and those of rogue cover many more things.
and in what they share that it is duplication of powers rogue has done more and with greater quantity, and without wearing out.
Now in what encompasses the new concept. she also takes vital energy and psyches .. and she literally took 8 billion .. so she has not shown limit in her main power. So she goes on this list.
The truth is that she has demonstrated a higher level of power with her absorption than almost all the members of this list and there are two specific facts that are irrefutable. 5 if I count all the times she has defeated avengers squads alone. but what he did vs the heavenly one. and the 8 billion entities set the bar too high.
I would advise you to go back and read those issues again. Storm did very well against the Hulk. Savage AND Grey Hulk. She was able to harm him and was able to keep him away from her and her partner. With that alone tells me your incorrect. Storm has never fought the Juggernaut. And if your referring to their Encounter in the Classic Run you can’t possibly call that a fight when Storm was dealing with Claustrophobia. However, Storm has done well against other heavy hitters. Not sure where you get that from.
As I said before it depend on who she is fighting. Her fight with Thor ended in a physical attack which is bad writing considering Thor is by far physically stronger than Storm. But their Second fight Storm did a bit better she beamed an EMP to Clone Thor’s Brain. However, as explained above Storm does well against Strong People. She did well against Dracula the same Dracula who went to toe with Thor. She blasted Arkon a warrior who also fought Thor. She’s proven herself very well against strong people. So, Your statement better yet your assessment is incorrect.
No Sir, you have that all wrong.
In Uncanny X-Men #158:
Rogue was beating the snot out of Wolverine to the point Storm stepped in and harmed her with Lightning. Then Storm knocked her away with a Blizzard. Towards the end of the Issue Storm put Rogue in a Tornado taking away from the fight because Storm didn’t want any citizens getting hurt. Storm was not helpless. Please Go back and read that.
I’ve already explained to you what happened with Her and Juggernaut. If that’s your point of saying she doesn’t do well with Strong People using that example. I would consider re-thinking your argument. Because, you can’t possibly believe someone who is having a Mental meltdown is fit for Battle. You can’t.
You do realize ALL the X-Men got their ass kicked when they fought the Shi’ar Royal Guard right???? And everyone was still fairly new in being Heroes and fighting together. So, I don’t understand why are you using that as Examples??? For Storm being Useless.
And really I don’t see how she was useless when she got blindsided. Are you saying being Blindsided in Battle makes you Useless?? If that’s the case shiiit every hero is Useless. Lol who hasn’t gotten Blindsided by an attack.
Now, to your last two points I’m just going to assume you probably don’t read that much X-Men. And I’m no longer taking you serious. Earlier you said she is very powerful. Now your saying she is not that Strong and your using terrible examples for your arguments. So, I think your trolling. And I don’t think you know what your talking about. Which I’ve should have know since nobody is really responding to any of your comments. Anyone here who actually reads the X-Men would agree with me.
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Lol I can’t tell if you are really failing at trolling or simply really pressed about Rogue not being named an omega. You keep mentioning super bricks as if its some sort of factor to being an omega or sign of power lol. And then bring up the Hulk or Juggz as if Psylocke, Rogue and Polaris would take either of them in a fight. Even with their defenses they would lose just like Storm would if they got a hold of them. There are multiple super bricks that need air to breath, have fluid in their body, have brains in their skull, can’t live if they got tossed into space, or drowned (besides her lightning has effectively hurt several of them), so I think Storm will be OK . No need undermine her capabilities to rationalize your frustrations about Rogue not being named omega. I’d he happy for Rogue if she was named an omega but also ok with her not being one. Doesn’t take way from her character.
ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Won’t join in this very pointless bait debate (my indirect way of telling Storm fans to ignore it) but, since when is control over water, especially from an omega mutant, a weak/not useful ability?