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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    When Mjolnir catches his hammer it is not going bullet speed or anything. Thor isn't any faster than Captain America.

    The Endgame fight shower us that.
    This post is strangely hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    This post is strangely hilarious.
    I will not correct that typo lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    Nope, Mjolnir doesn't go straight to his hand. In the Re-Entry gif, you can see it turning a street corner in the middle of being recalled. And in the third gif, Thor curves it on it's return path.
    So it goes to his hand. Yeah, it makes twists and turns. But it's basically aiming to return to his hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    Nope, Mjolnir doesn't go straight to his hand. In the Re-Entry gif, you can see it turning a street corner in the middle of being recalled. And in the third gif, Thor curves it on it's return path.
    It wasn't going at Mach 16 when it turned that corner. Any time his hand closes around the thing, it is noticeably moving at much slower speeds then when it was breaking orbit. It "goes to his hand" wether in a straight line or not. It's not really a speed feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    So it goes to his hand. Yeah, it makes twists and turns. But it's basically aiming to return to his hand.
    The key points being

    1. Mjolnir travels the Path Thor desires it to follow back to his hand, even if Thor isn't actively directing it (Since it doesn't fly through any buildings while returning to Thor in Dark World, actively turning in order to avoid them)

    2. Mjolnir can accelerate to high speed under it's own power.

    So if Thor desires, he can toss it at Superman, and then recall it to his hand via a path that goes through Superman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    The key points being

    1. Mjolnir travels the Path Thor desires it to follow back to his hand, even if Thor isn't actively directing it (Since it doesn't fly through any buildings while returning to Thor in Dark World, actively turning in order to avoid them)

    2. Mjolnir can accelerate to high speed under it's own power.

    So if Thor desires, he can toss it at Superman, and then recall it to his hand via a path that goes through Superman
    There's many other moments where the recall isn't that fast.

    Dark World was a special scenario where Mjolnir needed to up it's speed, because he was really far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    There's many other moments where the recall isn't that fast.

    Dark World was a special scenario where Mjolnir needed to up it's speed, because he was really far away.
    And in this case, it needs to up it's speed to follow Thor's will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    The key points being

    1. Mjolnir travels the Path Thor desires it to follow back to his hand, even if Thor isn't actively directing it (Since it doesn't fly through any buildings while returning to Thor in Dark World, actively turning in order to avoid them)

    2. Mjolnir can accelerate to high speed under it's own power.

    So if Thor desires, he can toss it at Superman, and then recall it to his hand via a path that goes through Superman
    How will Thor manage all of this while getting blitzed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    How will Thor manage all of this while getting blitzed?
    Technically all Mjolnir's got to do is leave his hand, and getting into a fight while hammer's doesn't stop the recall. Even if Supes starts beating the crap out of him, He can probably tough it out long enough for the hammer to hit him

    (Assuming that "Enter orbit in seconds" speeds are enough to tag Superman, of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    Technically all Mjolnir's got to do is leave his hand, and getting into a fight while hammer's doesn't stop the recall. Even if Supes starts beating the crap out of him, He can probably tough it out long enough for the hammer to hit him

    (Assuming that "Enter orbit in seconds" speeds are enough to tag Superman, of course)
    Or assuming that Supes would get taken out by one hit from Mjolnir.

    To be honest, it seems like you're grasping at straws here for Thor to have even a bit of chance against not being blitz-stomped. We've never seen Thor activate this speed up on his own in combat situations, especially not while getting blitzed to holy hell, and even if he could do that it's far from certain that it'll take out or even hit Superman to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    Or assuming that Supes would get taken out by one hit from Mjolnir.

    To be honest, it seems like you're grasping at straws here for Thor to have even a bit of chance against not being blitz-stomped. We've never seen Thor activate this speed up on his own in combat situations, especially not while getting blitzed to holy hell, and even if he could do that it's far from certain that it'll take out or even hit Superman to begin with.
    I kinda am grasping at straws, mostly for the challenge of it.

    Now, for more potential arguments for Thor, he was able to keep up with The Hulk in a fight, who is in turn faster than the Abomination, who was fast enough to turn around and smack a rocket out of the air before he hit him.

    So while he's not as Fast as Supes, he's probably fast enough to at least take someone sort of Action before Supes crosses the distance.

    It the Mjolnir tossing Tactic doesn't work, then another viable option might be to grab hold of Supes and someone a bifrost to him, BFRing them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    I kinda am grasping at straws, mostly for the challenge of it.

    Now, for more potential arguments for Thor, he was able to keep up with The Hulk in a fight, who is in turn faster than the Abomination, who was fast enough to turn around and smack a rocket out of the air before he hit him.

    So while he's not as Fast as Supes, he's probably fast enough to at least take someone sort of Action before Supes crosses the distance.

    It the Mjolnir tossing Tactic doesn't work, then another viable option might be to grab hold of Supes and someone a bifrost to him, BFRing them both.
    Wonder Woman is high end bullet timer and she was a statue to Superman. Thor's speed isn't even close to Wonder Woman's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    Wonder Woman is high end bullet timer and she was a statue to Superman. Thor's speed isn't even close to Wonder Woman's.
    When was Wonder Woman a statue to Supes? I don't remember that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    When was Wonder Woman a statue to Supes? I don't remember that
    In Justice League. He was holding back WW and Aquaman when Flash tried to come up behind him. Superman left WW and Arthur where they were, frozen and went after Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    In Justice League. He was holding back WW and Aquaman when Flash tried to come up behind him. Superman left WW and Arthur where they were, frozen and went after Flash.
    Again, This is DCAU not DCEU.

    It's the cartoons, not live action

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