Should the current Wonder Woman comic be more like Grant Morrison Earth One?

[Wakeneuron]

In many ways Wonder Woman's story started when Hypolyta was attacked by Hercules. From there Paradise Island was form. In many ways rape is the first weapon destruction. After that you have the first sharp pointed weapon. Then you have knives, swords, guns, rockets, bombs. This has been a subject in Grant Morrison's Earth One book.

If something similar was incorporated in her main book I can see it taking the form of Wonder Woman created a new city in America that would ban all symbols of the first weapon-rape. And will offer it as a refuge mostly for anyone who want to live free from a society who indulges in those symbols.

Also. The city will be highly advance and uses a form of a brain to computer interface to express very powerful feelings of love and peace.

Wonder Woman's pov would be that everyone is being raped on an unconscious level and this is indeed the root of all crime and war. She sees everyday crime as an extention of rape and with this world view she will enter into Batman's territory every now and then.

[Agent Z]

The victimization of the Amazons by men, especially Heracles predates Morrison's writing. Other than that, the less the main Wonder Woman comic has in common with anything Morrison has ever done with the character the better. His obsession with including weirdness for the sake of it is not as clever as he thinks and has resulted in all kinds of dodgy elements in his writing.

[SiegePerilous02]

The aesthetics of the Themyscira, and the depictions of Dr. Psycho and Etta Candy need to be brought over immediately.
I'd also be fine with using the Venus Girdles along with the ominous atmosphere surrounding them, because if they are used they should be questioned. it should just be allowed more space to "breath" than the Paula subplot was allowed to be.

Aside from that, WW is more of an interesting failure on his part. Which is still more interesting than what other writers typically put out, but far from his best and probably not something the character needs unless he has a co-author. I think him and Rucka, if working together, could kill it and balance out each others down sides. Morrison would inject more color, whimsy and weirdness intrinsic to the character, while Rucka could reign in the potentially problematic elements and and keep a serious atmopshere. and be better suited for some characters, and vice versa.

The victimization of the Amazons by men, especially Heracles predates Morrison's writing. Other than that, the less the main Wonder Woman comic has in common with anything Morrison has ever done with the character the better. His obsession with including weirdness for the sake of it is not as clever as he thinks and has resulted in all kinds of dodgy elements in his writing.

She was fine in JLA.

I also wouldn't say he does weirdness for the sake of it, that's just his style and superhero comics are larger than life and weird to begin with. it either clicks or it doesn't. But I don't think anything major by him has had especially dodgy writing except for WW, as usual she is the outlier of something.

[Agent Z]

The aesthetics of the Themyscira, and the depictions of Dr. Psycho and Etta Candy need to be brought over immediately.
I'd also be fine with using the Venus Girdles along with the ominous atmosphere surrounding them, because if they are used they should be questioned. it should just be allowed more space to "breath" than the Paula subplot was allowed to be.

Aside from that, WW is more of an interesting failure on his part. Which is still more interesting than what other writers typically put out, but far from his best and probably not something the character needs unless he has a co-author. I think him and Rucka, if working together, could kill it and balance out each others down sides. Morrison would inject more color, whimsy and weirdness intrinsic to the character, while Rucka could reign in the potentially problematic elements and and keep a serious atmopshere. and be better suited for some characters, and vice versa.



She was fine in JLA.

I also wouldn't say he does weirdness for the sake of it, that's just his style and superhero comics are larger than life and weird to begin with. it either clicks or it doesn't. But I don't think anything major by him has had especially dodgy writing except for WW, as usual she is the outlier of something.

Look up the character Mother of Champions.

There's also this little gem about why he made Steve Trevor black.

Nrama: Another surprising thing is that Steve Trevor is a black man. I assume that was a conscious decision, also to reflect the diversity of the outside world?

Morrison: Yeah, definitely on the diversity. We just wanted more representation in the book generally.

But in terms of Steve, it's also — again, there are a lot of characters who play opposite Diana, and we wanted Steve to be very physically opposite to her. Originally, Steve Trevor played the kind of feminine role in the Wonder Woman stories. He always seemed kind of boring next to Wonder Woman and all the girls in the stories. And I find it really hard to believe she would have any interest in this man at all beyond the scientific. So I found it much more interesting to have a man who seems potentially much stronger than that original slightly milk-softish Steve Trevor from the original. So I just updated him and made him a much stronger looking dude.

You see him as he's coming up out of the water, when Diana first sees him, and the parachute silks resemble the shell — we were kind of saying, yeah, this guy's in the feminine role, but think again. This isn't the Steve Trevor you're familiar with.

https://www.newsarama.com/28588-gran...earth-one.html

Also his issues with weirdness for the sake of it isn't limited to superhero comics. Even then we have stuff like him retconning Talia into a rapist because he misrembered the story about how she got pregnant and the orientalism in his writing of her (that was always a problem with the al Ghuls but Morrison took it up to 11).

[SiegePerilous02]

Look up the character Mother of Champions.

Yeah, fair enough on that one.

There's also this little gem about why he made Steve Trevor black.

He said for diversity. The rest of the quote you provide doesn't have anything to do with Steve's race swapping.

Also his issues with weirdness for the sake of it isn't limited to superhero comics. Even then we have stuff like him retconning Talia into a rapist because he misrembered the story about how she got pregnant and the orientalism in his writing of her (that was always a problem with the al Ghuls but Morrison took it up to 11).

Why is the weirdness an issue? Who is to say that it's just being done for the sake of it? Not everyone is going to interpret it that way.

I have no problem with him cranking up Talia's villainy, but I've never really liked her before him either. She was always wishy washy and kept bad company, so evil Talia is just more honest to me. If he mismembered the story at least it wasn't a deliberate retcon at first.

I don't view his depiction of the Al Ghuls as being worse than usual. I'm not overly fond of them to begin with though, partially for that reason.

[Agent Z]

Yeah, fair enough on that one.



He said for diversity. The rest of the quote you provide doesn't have anything to do with Steve's race swapping.




Why is the weirdness an issue? Who is to say that it's just being done for the sake of it? Not everyone is going to interpret it that way.

I have no problem with him cranking up Talia's villainy, but I've never really liked her before him either. She was always wishy washy and kept bad company, so evil Talia is just more honest to me. If he mismembered the story at least it wasn't a deliberate retcon at first.

I don't view his depiction of the Al Ghuls as being worse than usual. I'm not overly fond of them to begin with though, partially for that reason.

He specifically refers to Steve as playing the opposite to Diana and refers to using his looks as doing that.

It's definitely worse with him turning Talia into a cackling Dragon Lady stereotype, making her sole motivation be her obsession with Bruce and the invokation of the image of Kali in several images. Every problem with the al Ghuls, Morrison just made so much worse.

Also note he didn't make Selina pure evil despite her history of being wishy washy and keeping bad company as well.