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    Red face The Penance Stare vs these guys

    The Penance Stare is one of the more unique powers out there. If Ghost Rider (Danny Ketch) was able to get hold of these guys and use the Penance Stare on them, what would hypothetically happen?

    - Joker
    - Dr Doom
    - Doomsday
    - Beta Ray Bill
    - Adam Warlock
    - Odin

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    - Joker is anybody's guess depending on how they want to argue it.

    - Dr Doom feels it but overcomes it with sheer will power and maybe magic.

    - Doomsday is hard to say since, in some versions, he's a mindless monster.

    - Beta Ray Bill I don't know. Thor walked through the Cold Fire, the forerunner of the Stare, like it was nothing. Not sure with Bill.

    - Adam Warlock not sure.

    - Odin laughs uproariously that the Ghost Rider would even have the audacity to make the attempt.
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    Current Odin rolls on the ground screaming while Jason Aaron whispers all the bad stuff he's done into Odin's ear.

    Stuff that Aaron just retconned in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrvc View Post
    Current Odin rolls on the ground screaming while Jason Aaron whispers all the bad stuff he's done into Odin's ear.

    Stuff that Aaron just retconned in.
    I liked how they made the hammer a sentient universe the whole time ... after just a few years ago, it had been shattered and Thor bound his life force/the Odin(Thor)force into it so that Strange could reforge it.
    "... and when the Golden Toad started to sing, there was no turning back." - grampagen (Ochazuke)

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    Joker: During the Morrison run on JLA, the Martian Manhunter temporarily cured the Joker of his insanity, which caused the Joker to experience massive regret for his crimes. So I assume that the Joker would be immune to the Penance Stare unless it also made him sane.

    Dr Doom: I agree that he would successfully resist the penance stare with a combination of magic and sheer willpower.

    Doomsday: Depending on the version, he might be immune due to lack of sentience.

    Beta Ray Bill: Though a very decent guy, I don't think that he would be immune to the penance stare.

    Adam Warlock: He has been driven insane by sheer guilt before, so I think that he would be especially vulnerable to the penance stare. Heck, a first year philosophy student could probably talk Adam into experiencing overwhelming angst.

    Odin: Has the penance stare ever worked on someone on Odin's power level? If not, we shouldn't assume that it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    I liked how they made the hammer a sentient universe the whole time ... after just a few years ago, it had been shattered and Thor bound his life force/the Odin(Thor)force into it so that Strange could reforge it.
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    Whilst we find the path"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrvc View Post
    Current Odin rolls on the ground screaming while Jason Aaron whispers all the bad stuff he's done into Odin's ear.

    Stuff that Aaron just retconned in.
    Don't forget having Jane Foster become the new Odin (and better and more powerful than Odin), because it wouldn't be a Jason Aaron Thor story without trying to shoehorn Jane Foster into it as an amazing powerful superstrong character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
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    In Thor 600, Thor shattered Mjolnir when he killed Bor, and had Dr. Strange reforge the hammer (so he could bring Sif back from the dead). This cost him the Thorforce (it was still King Thor minus the Runes at this point) and Dr. Strange explained that now that Mjolnir was essentially his soul; if it was destroyed again, it'd kill him.

    This storyline was pretty well left alone (but still canon), until Jason Aaron retconned everything. Now Mjolnir is/was 'universal girl power'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    In Thor 600, Thor shattered Mjolnir when he killed Bor, and had Dr. Strange reforge the hammer (so he could bring Sif back from the dead). This cost him the Thorforce (it was still King Thor minus the Runes at this point) and Dr. Strange explained that now that Mjolnir was essentially his soul; if it was destroyed again, it'd kill him.

    This storyline was pretty well left alone (but still canon), until Jason Aaron retconned everything. Now Mjolnir is/was 'universal girl power'.
    Yeah, I remember all the Bor stuff. I actually enjoyed most of the "Asgard on Earth" stuff.

    Guess im just confused on the sentient universe hammer bit?? Didn't Aaron do the Mother Storm bit? Has it now transformed once again, or is that what you meant?
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    Our war would yield countless dead
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    So let us cast arms aside
    And like discard our wrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Yeah, I remember all the Bor stuff. I actually enjoyed most of the "Asgard on Earth" stuff.

    Guess im just confused on the sentient universe hammer bit?? Didn't Aaron do the Mother Storm bit? Has it now transformed once again, or is that what you meant?
    Oh, yea I was just saying that Aaron retconned an interesting plot beat into "Hammer has always been an imprisoned woman cuz Odin is a chauvinistic pig".
    "... and when the Golden Toad started to sing, there was no turning back." - grampagen (Ochazuke)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Oh, yea I was just saying that Aaron retconned an interesting plot beat into "Hammer has always been an imprisoned woman cuz Odin is a chauvinistic pig".
    Ok, I got you now.

    You read any of the new Thor stuff? Now that he has Mjolnir again - after they beat Malekith? Im wondering if its worth picking up, or if its Aaron stuff as usual.
    "So full of hate were our eyes
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    Our war would yield countless dead
    But never victory
    So let us cast arms aside
    And like discard our wrath
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    Whilst we find the path"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboy View Post
    - Odin laughs uproariously that the Ghost Rider would even have the audacity to make the attempt.
    This is a stretch but in FF 243, Dr Strange confronted a weakened Galactus with all the souls he's ever consumed and it KO'd him. So if Galactus can be affected by something like that, it wouldn't be a cakewalk for Odin, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    This is a stretch but in FF 243, Dr Strange confronted a weakened Galactus with all the souls he's ever consumed and it KO'd him. So if Galactus can be affected by something like that, it wouldn't be a cakewalk for Odin, right?
    Galactus was literally poisoned when this happened. It's a pretty big asterisk. Later, Prof X hits a healthy G with all the guilt, fear and hope from the Skrull homeworld population and he just shrugs.
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    Our war would yield countless dead
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    So let us cast arms aside
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Ok, I got you now.

    You read any of the new Thor stuff? Now that he has Mjolnir again - after they beat Malekith? Im wondering if its worth picking up, or if its Aaron stuff as usual.
    Eh, more of Aaron turning Jane Foster into a sue, really.

    Shattered her hammer to knock out King Lauffey's eyes, then it magically turned into a vambrace that can now be ALL weapons or something ? Anyway, she's the new Valkyrie, cuz all the dead Valkyrie's wanted her to be the new one.

    Just to be perfectly clear. No I'm not reading it. Until he's off the book, idgaf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    This is a stretch but in FF 243, Dr Strange confronted a weakened Galactus with all the souls he's ever consumed and it KO'd him. So if Galactus can be affected by something like that, it wouldn't be a cakewalk for Odin, right?
    My all-time favorite scene from the FF cartoon:

    (with the exception of Ghost Rider replacing Stephen, of course).
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