Black Superman vs MCU Captain America

[Lord Falcon]

Brixton Lore, AKA Black Superman from the Hobbs and Shaw movie, takes on MCU Captain America.

1) Pure hand to hand. Fight takes place in a boxing gym.

2) Cap gets his Wakandan shield and all the equipment he took besides his round shield when he pretended to try to solo the Nazi base in the first Captain America movie. That includes the motorcycle. Black Superman gets his bulletproof suit and hi-tech motorcycle. Fight takes place in a sprawling industrial park.

[The Arbiter]

Haven't seen him in action quite yet. Does he have anything like the motorcycle toss or helicopter pulling feat?

[Guy1]

Haven't seen him in action quite yet. Does he have anything like the motorcycle toss or helicopter pulling feat?

spoilers:

The Rock actually had a similar feat to the helicopter one in this movie, albeit with a chain attached to the helicopter while he held onto a car with his other hand, and Brixton easily overpowered him. The only reason He and Shaw actually beat him was by tag teaming him from both sides and the still had to let themselves get hit by him in order for the other guy to get a punch in.

end of spoilers

[Lord Falcon]

I think anyone coming into this thread will understand from the OP there'll be spoilers for Hobbs and Shaw.

At one point in the movie, Hobbs and Shaw are in a truck are dueling a helicopte, with Shaw drivingr. The helicopter is the heavy-duty sort - it carries rockets on wings and is a lot bigger than the Bell helicopter Bucky tried to take off with. Hobbs attaches a chain to the helicopter to prevent the helicopter from getting away. The helicopter begins to lift the truck off the ground. A second allied vehicle comes and attaches itself to the truck, and the heli begins to lift that too. A third comes and the heli lifts that too. It's only with the use of a fourth (iirc, might have been 5) vehicle and a burst of nitro from all the vehicles at once that the helicopter's engines are finally overloaded and one of them blows out. At this point the chain on the original truck comes loose, and Hobbs grabs the chain with one hand while anchoring himself to the truck with the other before reattaching the chain.

Hobbs holds the chain for a briefer period that Cap and is depicted as barely holding the situation together through sheer grit, rather than Cap who was outright overpowering the helicopter. And the helicopter in Hobbs and Shaw was operating at half power. But the helicopter in question had been lifting multiple trucks when it still had both engines, indicating a ridiculous power to weight ratio. So mileage may vary.

Every hit from Black Superman lays out Hobbs and Shaw, and they need about a ten count to recover. They in turn never land a hit on Black Superman one on one because the latter is not only faster and stronger than them, but has fancy nanotech in his eyes that makes their every attack look telegraphed. Hobbs and Shaw only survive throughout the movie and ultimately prevail because Black Superman is incredibly cocky, prone to monologuing, is trying through the majority of the movie to recruit one or both of them, and ultimately is not a very smart fighter who can't compensate for a second inferior opponent trying to stay in his blind spots. And even then, until they finally prevail they only ever succeed in running away, much of the time through luck.

Durability-wise, when the helicopter Black Superman is piloting finally crashes down a near-vertical cliff, he barely has to walk it off.

However, if he receives enough blows to the cranium, it can screw up his nanomachines and render him less able to defend himself against subsequent attacks.

[The Dog]

So... does anyone else remember when The Fast and the Furious was Point Break with souped-up muscles cars, or am I the only one?

[Guy1]

So... does anyone else remember when The Fast and the Furious was Point Break with souped-up muscles cars, or am I the only one?

I think that was just the first movie. Maybe second. The FF films are their own breed of insanity now.