HOUSE OF X [02] : The Uncanny Life of Moira X *Spoilers*

[ISnowNothin]

I know it wouldn't wipe her powers. Destiny said she had 10 or 11 lives. So if she dies before she's 13 or after it doesn't matter. 11, which I'm speculating is the 616, would be her last life.

Destiny said that she had 10-11 lives, and ALSO, mentioned that killing her before her powers activated (when she was sick at 13) that it would break the cycle, intimating directly that's WHY she would only have 10-11 lives and not an infinite number. If she dies before she's 13 it's OVER.

Also if it gets rid if some if the more stupid and ridiculous runs and developments in the Xmen history while saving and tweeking or updating some of the better stories im all for it.

They aren't rewriting or undoing anything, as they keep saying over and over, and Jordan White explained very bluntly, as referred to earlier in this thread.

This isn't X-Men's Crisis on Infinite Earth's, rewriting its history by way of futzing with events in continuity and selective erasures, this is X-Men's Empire Strikes Back, recontextualizing the entire past with new information making us look at it through a different lens.

[nandes]

The 11th life seems like a fail safe in case the new status quo doesn't go well and Marvel decides to reboot things (aka all the history of the X-Men happens the same way it did except the state of Krakoa is never formed). Like how Hickman's Avengers run ended with a big reset button.

[strathcona]

Destiny said that she had 10-11 lives, and ALSO, mentioned that killing her before her powers activated (when she was sick at 13) that it would break the cycle, intimating directly that's WHY she would only have 10-11 lives and not an infinite number. If she dies before she's 13 it's OVER.

That's not how I read it. I thought she only had a finite number of lives, no matter what. If she died before 13 that would end things right then and there. But if she makes it past 13... which we have seen she does, then she will only get 10 lives. But if she makes the "right choice" she will get an 11th. I am speculating that these minis are her making that right choice in her 10th life, leading her to have been reborn into the 11th life, which is what we know as the 616.

My suggestion of mindwiped was only so that it makes more sense for what we have seen of her in the past.

[Havok83]

That's not how I read it. I thought she only had a finite number of lives, no matter what. If she died before 13 that would end things right then and there. But if she makes it past 13... which we have seen she does, then she will only get 10 lives. But if she makes the "right choice" she will get an 11th. I am speculating that these minis are her making that right choice in her 10th life, leading her to have been reborn into the 11th life, which is what we know as the 616.

My suggestion of mindwiped was only so that it makes more sense for what we have seen of her in the past.

both theories hold up to be honest. Moira could be killed before her powers are activated or die after being depowered. Either way, without being a mutant, she's vulnerable

[nx01a]

I wonder why Moira hasn't focused on creating AI and making it serve mutantkind yet. Life VI? Was that you, girl?!

[spirit2011]

Referring to the Decimation Era as 'the Lost Decade'? Wow. I'm not sure if that's shade but it looks like shade.

I loved that
shade or not

[mugiwara]

I wonder why Moira hasn't focused on creating AI and making it serve mutantkind yet. Life VI? Was that you, girl?!

Yes, that would be a solution.
Or trying to find a peaceful way for mutants and machines.

Warlock and Danger could be ambassadors for the X-Men. Reaching out to the Avengers AI.

[Wissenschaft]

I wonder why Moira hasn't focused on creating AI and making it serve mutantkind yet. Life VI? Was that you, girl?!

You want her to create Skynet? Madness! :P

[The Whovian]

"The most important scene in the X-men's history". Indeed.

This cannot be stated enough

[Harpsikord]

You want her to create Skynet? Madness! :P

I'm not sure it'd be an issue. Not with people like Forge and Trinary.

[nx01a]

You want her to create Skynet? Madness! :P

If you know it'll get made no matter what, you might as well devote your life to becoming an expert and trying to control or just positively influence it.

[Fantasy Free Me]

Referring to the Decimation Era as 'the Lost Decade'? Wow. I'm not sure if that's shade but it looks like shade.

Considering that Schism happened and Mutants had like a thousand extinction events during that time, I can see why Moira won't consider it a happy time.


Don't get me wrong, I loved most of the comics from the "Lost Decade" but my poor Mutants were getting fucked up then and there.

[ISnowNothin]

That's not how I read it. I thought she only had a finite number of lives, no matter what. If she died before 13 that would end things right then and there. But if she makes it past 13... which we have seen she does, then she will only get 10 lives. But if she makes the "right choice" she will get an 11th. I am speculating that these minis are her making that right choice in her 10th life, leading her to have been reborn into the 11th life, which is what we know as the 616.

I was responding to the portion where you'd said if she died before 13 it wouldn't matter, but I see that you get why it would. It wouldn't necessarily be the only way to stop the cycle, I suppose, but her mentioning both of those things together seems like it was absolutely intentional and meant to be connected.

both theories hold up to be honest. Moira could be killed before her powers are activated or die after being depowered. Either way, without being a mutant, she's vulnerable

That's true.

[numberthirty]

So does anyone know why this story is being sold as 2 mini series and not 1? I thought HoX would focus on the present day and PoX would primarily be past and future stuff that bring context to present day. However this issue took place primarily in the past and picks up from the cliffhanger of Year 0 from PoX. It doesnt feel like the 2 minis have a set theme

It is worth noting that they are not exactly keeping this as "Two..." versus "One..." as you seem to be saying.

Get what you are saying. Just don't think that what they are doing is quite as clearly cut as that.

[nx01a]

Considering that Schism happened and Mutants had like a thousand extinction events during that time, I can see why Moira won't consider it a happy time.
Don't get me wrong, I loved most of the comics from the "Lost Decade" but my poor Mutants were getting fucked up then and there.

You're absolutely right... but the fact that Marvel is skipping right over it in almost every interview hyping Hickman, going straight from Morrison [and sometimes Whedon] to Hickman? Doubled with Hickman himself calling it the Lost Decade? Shade.

Some great stories, some bad stories, some horrific times for the X-Men.