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    Default HOUSE OF X [02] : The Uncanny Life of Moira X *Spoilers*

    Just wanted to create a thread for this. I will be posting my thoughts.

    No X-Men show up in this. Sorry. Well except for Xavier. I don't count Magneto or Mystique as X-Men. Sorry not sorry.

    If you already read the spoilers you know this issue is about Moira McTaggert. Hopefully I spelled that last name correctly. It's a huge retcon and you realaize why that page is the most important.

    Basically everything she has gone through is still active in her memory. So when she first meets Xavier he reads her mind. And they decide. To break all the rules. And I believe this is why we're getting the Krakoan era.

    Moira has bascially gone through ten lives already because she is a mutant.

    The biggest retcon that works and it makes sense without really messing up anything that has gone on previously.

    I do love why she partners with Magneto and Apocalypse. She was radicalized by previous experiences and does what she thinks are the only options she has not tried.

    The scene with Destiny, Mystique, and Pyro was great. Loved the whole dynamic and interactions. I hope we get confirmation about the Pyro that will be in Maruaders.
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    Just read it. It is a crazy awesome book with beautiful art and colors. Loved it completely.

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    I loved it too, it really blew me away. I wonder if HoX/PoX ends with Moira going back and resetting one more time, especially since Destiny told her she would get 11 attempts.

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    Yes. It is just mindblowing. Such a quality. Story, art, colors. Perfection.

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    So Moira is creating alternate realities each time she is re-born, right?

    Otherwise, I cannot make sense of this.

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    Never in my wildest dreams did I think Moira MacTaggert would get this kind of treatment. This is great stuff; finally feels good to read X-Men again.

    Destiny was also a complete badass and needs to appear more. And Avalanche cameo! <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    So Moira is creating alternate realities each time she is re-born, right?

    Otherwise, I cannot make sense of this.
    When Moira dies she returns to the time of her birth with her knowledge intact. Which allows her to change the timeline each time she dies and returns as a child. This is her mutant ability, although in some ways it's a horrible power to have because the only time you can use your power is if you die. Moira has attempted to live the timeline 10 times now and she made changes every time. This current path appears to be her most successful so far, and there have been setbacks. She obviously chose to fake her own death at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    So Moira is creating alternate realities each time she is re-born, right?

    Otherwise, I cannot make sense of this.
    Yes, the entire 616 continuity we know is just a single lifetime of a minor X-Men character. It's not clear if she's creating branches or if it's a full do-over each time.

    The main thing I don't get at the moment is why such an old and experienced Moira would make the mistake of marrying Joe MacTaggart when Xavier goes off to fight in Korea. Makes me wonder if the marriage and birth of Kevin were a feature of the missing lifetime VI, intentionally recreated in X. Also, Deadly Genesis doesn't really make sense if Moira and Xavier are running a two-man con based on her advance knowledge of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    So Moira is creating alternate realities each time she is re-born, right?

    Otherwise, I cannot make sense of this.
    Yes, she makes different timelines every single time. It opens up the possibility (given what destiny said) that the entire timeline could be rewritten into a new canon.. but in the end almost everyone would be the same except for moira and select events that she influences in some way (if they choose to do that--it isn't guaranteed). But her current life is the 616 and all the others are just sort of explanations of her retcon'd mutation and the things she learned to get where she is now. It's a rather neat trick, and actually brought up against another mutant power that would've given people endless speculation I think if they hadn't addressed it--what happens when reincarnation meets precognition. Evidently, Destiny's precognition is so absolute she can see alternate realities. Ordinarily I would imagine most would say the reincarnator becomes a big ol' pandoras box they can't figure out because they aren't bound by death's permanence like everybody else.

    Interesting storytelling but Moira isn't a huge favorite of mine so I'm still kind of waiting for them to show off more people than the usual suspects whenever power plays go on. The more I read this, though, the more I think Xavier/Magneto/Apocalypse should be done away with altogether the next time Marvel tries to reboot things (with as much leniency as Hickman has). Ultimately, it inevitably comes back to them, and there's only so many ways you can retell the same story over 50+ years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    So Moira is creating alternate realities each time she is re-born, right?

    Otherwise, I cannot make sense of this.
    I don't think so. I think that's the whole point of her mutation and what destiny said about things warping around her but she couldn't really see her. I think Moira's power isn't simply going back in time but rather she warps everything around her. Sort of like an internal reality manipulation. So i think Moira literally resets everything back to the day she was born.
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    WOW, this issue (and series) is amazing. I know it's early, but I knew, after reading Hickman's run on FF and Avengers, he would be equally incredible on the X-Men.

    This issue blew my mind. I was kind of spoiled a little by CBR but not fully. I can't say how great a start this is to the new era of the X-Men.

    Hickman's take on Moira is not only ingenious, but imaginative and refreshing. I absolutely love the idea that she has always been crafting and shaping things behind the scenes. I just hope that it doesn't end in her dying for the last time. I truly hope she can break that cycle.

    I haven't read everyone else's comments yet, but did anyone else notice that Hickman skipped her sixth life story? Not a big deal, but thought it kind of interesting that he skipped it. Maybe there's a reason and something Hickman is going to do with that life that is weaved into the main story later. That would be cool. If not, no big deal either.

    And the art is great too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    WOW, this issue (and series) is amazing. I know it's early, but I knew, after reading Hickman's run on FF and Avengers, he would be equally incredible on the X-Men.

    This issue blew my mind. I was kind of spoiled a little by CBR but not fully. I can't say how great a start this is to the new era of the X-Men.

    Hickman's take on Moira is not only ingenious, but imaginative and refreshing. I absolutely love the idea that she has always been crafting and shaping things behind the scenes. I just hope that it doesn't end in her dying for the last time. I truly hope she can break that cycle.

    I haven't read everyone else's comments yet, but did anyone else notice that Hickman skipped her sixth life story? Not a big deal, but thought it kind of interesting that he skipped it. Maybe there's a reason and something Hickman is going to do with that life that is weaved into the main story later. That would be cool. If not, no big deal either.

    And the art is great too!!
    It was definitely intentionally skipped over. I’m extremely curious to see why that was and what happened in that timeline that would call for it to be excluded. Could be that for whatever reason Moira just doesn’t remember it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    WOW, this issue (and series) is amazing. I know it's early, but I knew, after reading Hickman's run on FF and Avengers, he would be equally incredible on the X-Men.

    This issue blew my mind. I was kind of spoiled a little by CBR but not fully. I can't say how great a start this is to the new era of the X-Men.

    Hickman's take on Moira is not only ingenious, but imaginative and refreshing. I absolutely love the idea that she has always been crafting and shaping things behind the scenes. I just hope that it doesn't end in her dying for the last time. I truly hope she can break that cycle.

    I haven't read everyone else's comments yet, but did anyone else notice that Hickman skipped her sixth life story? Not a big deal, but thought it kind of interesting that he skipped it. Maybe there's a reason and something Hickman is going to do with that life that is weaved into the main story later. That would be cool. If not, no big deal either.

    And the art is great too!!
    Maybe she died before her powers manifested and that life really wasn’t important because nothing notable happened...

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    I enjoyed it as a plot twist to re-start things. I don't think it will hold up to in-depth scrutiny, so I'm just going to go with the flow and accept it without over-analyzing it.

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    Bring back Destiny.

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