Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
He was skilled enough to whup all over the TMNT when they tried to fight him individually. It was only when they really, really switched to ganging up on him that they won.
He ended up getting exploded by his own thermite grenade.
Later on, the Foot fixed him by feeding parts of his body to some kind of mystic worm that forms colonies. The worms took on his characteristics, and then their colonies went through some kind of rituals/science stuff. The Foot ended up with three mutant creatures and finally a copy of Saki, himself. Saki and the Foot ambushed Leo, almost killed him, then drove April, the TMNT, and Casey out of New York for a looong time. When they went back, Leo took on the Shredder one-on-one, but swords only - 'Saki' dumped his armor. Leo won after a tough fight.
The TMNT weren't on Batman's level -- they dodged shuriken, and had to work hard to avoid getting shot up by arrows. People with guns forced them to flee, or use stealth, or hide under cover. Saki wasn't THAT much above them, given the four of them beat him. Batman wouldn't have much of a problem taking him on.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
This is the current Batman
"Money and muscle, that’s what I want; to be able to do any damned thing I want and get away with it. Money won’t do that altogether, because if a man is a weakling, all the money in the world won’t enable him to soak an enemy himself; on the other hand, unless he has money he may not be able to get away with it."
Robert E. Howard
Not really. Utrom Shredder's duel with Leo was based off of the return to New York from the comic, but there were a lot of differences. The 2003 Foot has a wider variety of forces, and just plain more heavy hitters, for starters. 2003 Shredder actually had a lot of fighting before the duel with Leonardo, and Leonardo used a magic sword to fight Shredder.
Why are we talking Michael Bay?
I'm talking original canon Turtles with MoR. The best 'strength' feat I've seen from them is picking up a human with both hands and throwing them about 8' (which, compared to RL humans, is pretty darned good for 4'6" dudes). They were barely fast enough to dodge arrows and thrown shuriken, and when shot at, resorted to taking cover rather than dancing through automatic gunfire to beat up the shooters. And Leo explicitly got worn out and exhausted by having a running fight that probably took about a half-hour, at most, judging by what happened elsewhere in that issue during the same time.
None of this is on Batman's level.
Last edited by Sharpandpointies; 08-19-2019 at 06:33 AM.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
I remember the Original cartoon shredder punching a giant safe to pieces with one punch. It wasn't even particularly plot-critical or anything. He was just doing it to show he was ridiculously strong, and if those street youths joined the Foot he could teach them to be super strong too.
Unlike Comic version, I don't think Cartoon Batman had any feats of busting up rocks with his punches, so that would give him a distinct strength disadvantage.
Then again most of his foes were stronger than him...
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Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate