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    I loved Perez's depiction of the Amazons as having multiple ethnicities, but it was never really shown how those varied ethnicities impacted the characters. One could argue that it didn't, in that Paradise is an equal and equitable environment, but we still have to contend with Themysciran architecture and fashion being overwhelmingly Hellenistic in its design.

    That's why I've always preferred (and would reintroduce) an advanced Amazon society. Just like many real-world cities, older or ancient architectural designs would stand next to and be dispersed amongst new design aesthetics and achievements. Inspiration and fashion design could come from a variety of cultures and incorporate past designs in contemporary ways - just like style does in the real world.

    Regardless, given Diana, Hippolyta, Steve, Donna, Artemis, Cassie, Warkiller, etc., we need more individual Amazons of Color (AOC) to rise up as major and minor supporting characters. I'd increase the profiles of Nu'Bia and Philippus immediately and revisit Mala and Orana as potential recipients of an ethnicity change as well as mine all the AOC Perez and Jimenez introduced in their runs. There are so many aspects of Themyscira that we haven't touched on in quite a while that these Amazons could be in charge of, let alone new aspects of the Amazons that may need to develop based on their reconnection with Man's World at some point.

    All of these women could add amazing richness and detail to the Amazons' way of life and help promote the Amazons more fully into the broader DCU.

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    I was a fan of Sirrica from Azzarello's run and was hoping she'd come in and be WonderGirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Marston probably just picked Greek names because they sounded "foreign".
    In the Greek legends, all Amazons have Greek names (if their names are given at all). So, either the Greeks made up all those stories about Amazons, or they translated the meaning of the foreign names from the language of the Amazons into Greek, so that the readers could understand. Many names of Amazons are connected to horses (hippos) - any names starting with Hipp-, or ending in -ippe are connected to horses. Marston simply used some of the names from the classics, and invented some others like Mala.

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    Looking back on it, I wish the WW movie hadn't given Philippus' role as combat instructor to Antiope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Two of the Amazons, Mala and Oranna, have names of Indian and Wiradjuri origin respectively so they clearly weren't all meant to be of Greek origin. Marston probably just picked Greek names because they sounded "foreign".
    Are there any other named Amazons besides those two, Hippolyta and Diana (which is a Roman name)? I'm pretty sure the Hellenizing of Wonder Woman's mythos comes from Perez. I've said before that the whole backstory involving Steve Trevor's mother was an explanation as to why WW has a non-Greek name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    Are there any other named Amazons besides those two, Hippolyta and Diana (which is a Roman name)? I'm pretty sure the Hellenizing of Wonder Woman's mythos comes from Perez. I've said before that the whole backstory involving Steve Trevor's mother was an explanation as to why WW has a non-Greek name.
    Wikipedia has a list of Amazons who appeared pre crisis and quite a number of them have Greek names. Perez it should be noted also created the Bana whose names are of Arab origin (except for Artemis who wasn't created by him) and included or at least refernced other pantheons other than the Greek ones. Notably, a pre-Crisis WW story had Diana fight the reanimated corpse of a deceased Amazon named Artemis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Wikipedia has a list of Amazons who appeared pre crisis and quite a number of them have Greek names. Perez it should be noted also created the Bana whose names are of Arab origin (except for Artemis who wasn't created by him) and included or at least refernced other pantheons other than the Greek ones. Notably, a pre-Crisis WW story had Diana fight the reanimated corpse of a deceased Amazon named Artemis.
    There are a bunch of Bronze Age stories that do feature Greek named Amazons (Antiope, Artemis) and there are just a broader assortment of stories featuring the Greek pantheon (which wasn't really a thing in the silver or golden ages). Though characters like Mala were still kicking around. So I would amend my statement that, even though the Hellenization of Wonder Woman's mythos was already taking place by the time Perez got to her, and he finished the process (I'm fairly certain the name Themyscara came with Perez too, as before it was just called Amazon Island).

    For most of the Golden and Silver Age though the Amazons didn't have have a strict naming tradition, though just to clarify I wouldn't say that means the Amazons were diverse. Mala may be an Indian name, but that doesn't mean she was Indian as the name is simple enough it could have been an independent creation or he could have been ignorant to its origins. Marton's stories were very pulpy and names didn't necessarily match our modern notions of coherency. For instance the warlord Mars had under his command three 'dukes' and a knight named 'Mephistopheles.'
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