Has there ever been a psionic power grid? How much is too much?

[Glio]

Celestials being more powerful than The Living Tribunal today has to be wrong. We have seen them be slaughtered again and again.

[phoenixzero23]

Celestials being more powerful than The Living Tribunal today has to be wrong. We have seen them be slaughtered again and again.

I don't know from which issue they came but there are some scans were one particular celestial overpowered Protege who had copied the living tribunal powers.
It doesn't mean the entire race is like that just one of them.

[Glio]

I don't know from which issue they came but there are some scans were one particular celestial overpowered Protege who had copied the living tribunal powers.
It doesn't mean the entire race is like that just one of them.

Yes, in Guardians of the Galaxy, but that contradicts 99% of what we know.

[lordozone]

The official list for the most powerful beings in all of Marvel is:

1: One Above All
2: The Fulcrum/Taimut the Dreaming
3: Beyonder (Pre-nerf)
4: Molecule Man (pre-nerf)
5: Scathan the Approver
6: The Living Tribunal
7: Protege
8: Mad Jim Jaspers
9. Franklin Richards
10. Mikaboshi the Sky King/Kubik/Kosmos
11: The Vishanti/Cyttorak/Shuma-Gorrath/Abraxus/Chthon/The Phoenix
12: Death/Eternity/Oblivion/Infinity/Galactus/Hawk God
13: Master Order/Master Chaos
14: The In-Betweener/Tyrant
15: Per-Nerf Doctor Strange
16: Odin/Zeus/Surtur/Ego/Mephisto
17: Dormammu/Max Power Thor/Max Power Hulk/Max Power Juggernaut/Thanos/Drax/Onslaught

Everyone else is below that.

Where did you find this official list ?

[The tall man]

The official list for the most powerful beings in all of Marvel is:

1: One Above All
2: The Fulcrum/Taimut the Dreaming
3: Beyonder (Pre-nerf)
4: Molecule Man (pre-nerf)
5: Scathan the Approver
6: The Living Tribunal
7: Protege
8: Mad Jim Jaspers
9. Franklin Richards
10. Mikaboshi the Sky King/Kubik/Kosmos
11: The Vishanti/Cyttorak/Shuma-Gorrath/Abraxus/Chthon/The Phoenix
12: Death/Eternity/Oblivion/Infinity/Galactus/Hawk God
13: Master Order/Master Chaos
14: The In-Betweener/Tyrant
15: Per-Nerf Doctor Strange
16: Odin/Zeus/Surtur/Ego/Mephisto
17: Dormammu/Max Power Thor/Max Power Hulk/Max Power Juggernaut/Thanos/Drax/Onslaught

Everyone else is below that.

Wasn't it always stated that the Living Tribunal was second in overall power, only behind the One Above All? In fact "he" served as an agent of the OBA, his word and rulings on matters were final and it was understood that he spoke for the OBA. How he is listed as #6 on this list is beyond me.

[PsychoEFrost]

Wasn't it always stated that the Living Tribunal was second in overall power, only behind the One Above All? In fact "he" served as an agent of the OBA, his word and rulings on matters were final and it was understood that he spoke for the OBA. How he is listed as #6 on this list is beyond me.

The Fulcrum is believed to be a fragment of the OAA's power given form, while Taimut's awakened power is close. The Beyonder was originally a container for the entire Marvel omniverse (since retconned). Molecule Man had absolute control over all molecules in existence, and was only surpassed by the Beyonder. Scathan is the judgement hand of the Living Tribunal, though there is debate over which is more powerful.

[LordAllMIghty]

I dont think Protege had ths power of LT yet. Scathan judgement was finalized by LT. Though i could be wrong as i haven't debated Marvel's hierarchy in years

[H-E-D]

Funny that Hickman giving a clear definition of what the qualifiers for Omega Level are... has lead to more speculation of what the qualifiers for Omega Level are.

[butterflykyss]

Franklin Richards used his powers to restore the entire multiverse after Secret Wars.

You can't go over that.

I was thinking of the Trion dimension that Ororo healed as well as the galatic core but those definitely pales in comparison to healing the entire multiverse.

[yogaflame]

I haven't seen any mutant come even close to what franklin has done. The closest thing would be White Phoenix Jean.

Storm over powered the Trion(the composite elemental gods who are the past, present, and future of their dimension) and usurped control over their dimension, and repaired the entire dimensional m-brane that Cyttorak's magic had torn open, and the contents of that dimension, back to normal. That's about right there with Jean burning off one timeline as White Phoenix of the Crown. But I agree, Franklin is in another class completely, with multiple universes under his creation. Maybe only Scarlet Witch's multiversal "No More Mutants" begins to compete with him, and that was also augmented by external power(Dr. Doom's Life Force or whatever).

[Shreene]

I don't know from which issue they came but there are some scans were one particular celestial overpowered Protege who had copied the living tribunal powers.
It doesn't mean the entire race is like that just one of them.

[JudicatorPrime]

In terms of psionic powers, originally, it was not so complex. There was the One Above All, i.e., the Creator. Then there was the Phoenix Force. Note that all of the psionic energies and powers of anyone and anything that has ever existed, or ever will exist, was supposed to be subsumed by the Phoenix Force. That includes Franklin Richards' psionic abilities. That's not to say that everyone who wielded the PF had the full compliment of powers, or access to Nth level psionics. But the Phoenix Force as a pure abstract entity does.

Sadly, as with all incalculably powerful female forms, the PF has been vastly curtailed. She is little more than a parlor trick, no thanks to treatment by multiple writers over the years.

[JudicatorPrime]

Wasn't it always stated that the Living Tribunal was second in overall power, only behind the One Above All? In fact "he" served as an agent of the OBA, his word and rulings on matters were final and it was understood that he spoke for the OBA. How he is listed as #6 on this list is beyond me.

Here I don't think "power" means what you think. By power, we mean "authority" when it comes to the Living Tribunal. There are clearly more powerful beings that exist who can kill the LT.

[Zaja]

Where do we put Hyperstorm (Franklin and Rachel's kid)? By genetics alone, he should be around his father's level, if not higher, but last time I heard of him, he got schooled by Galactus.

[PsychoEFrost]

Where do we put Hyperstorm (Franklin and Rachel's kid)? By genetics alone, he should be around his father's level, if not higher, but last time a I heard of him, he got schooled by Galactus.

Hyperstorm would likely be around Galactus's tier. He lacks his father's reality warping ability, but his energy manipulation should be put him in that general area.