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    Default Absolute Carnage #1

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    I think Cates made a mistake. Unless Harry made Peter and Spiderman both of Normie godparents. Peter is basically revealing his identify as Spider-Man although everyone besides Dylan should know in that room
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    I never liked Carnage... until today.

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    Just to be clear, does Eddie knows Spider-Man's civilian ID again? When did this happen?
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    Maybe after ASM #800, when Spider-Man used the Symbiote again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo Strange View Post
    Maybe after ASM #800, when Spider-Man used the Symbiote again.
    yeah thats should be the reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    This event is going to be Crazy issue 1 was totally worth the wait. Can't wait to see how this will all play out
    Dude, totally agree. This was some intense, level stuff going on here. There were definitely parts of the issue (like the graves and Ravencroft) where it felt like a horror movie. I was on the fence with Carnage's new look, but wow, seeing him now, he's as monstrous as ever! As always, it's great to see a Venom and Spider-Man team-up, though in this case, Venom was the main character. Liked it a lot. Spider-Man was a welcome addition to all of this. In the midst of Knull gods and symbiote-infused serial killers, he can still crack jokes and make difficult situations light.

    As for that final scene spoilers:
    that was a tense moment! Venom and Spider-Man, fighting against Carnage, a whacked up John Jameson, and Carnage minions on one side while having to protect a Cletus Kasady infused Norman Osborn on the other! Holy crap! Them trying to get out of the cell, Spider-Man pounding at the wall, damn, that was intense...only for it to be for naught. Osborn is now a minion of Kasady. DAMN!
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    Could it have been better? Yeah. How did spoilers:
    Eddie known the Maker?
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    Normie Osborn go with Spider-Man and not bring Harry with him?
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    Still, I'm hooked. Looking forward to this and some of the other tie-in's!
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    I was on the fence with this....because I wasn’t interested in a huge drawn out stretched across multiple titles type crossover event.

    Oh my god was I wrong. This was such a damn good read. This is how you do a Carnage/Venom/Spider-Man story. Keep it dark, bloody, nasty with a touch of that classic Spider-Man humor. The horror movie type atmosphere is so good here. The dynamic between Spidey and Venom also works. Chapter 3 of this book had chills running up my spine the entire time. The artwork fit so well

    All in all, I’m really excited for the rest of this. It’s a shame that will all the attention the X world is getting now that this title might be passed over by some.

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    The X-Men deserve all the attention they can get, but that doesn't mean Absolute Carnage should be left by the wayside. What's happening with both of them is absolutely incredible, albeit in different ways. That said, I agree with everyone here that Spider-Man stole the show, and I would personally look forward to a Cates-written (preferably with Stegman joining him on art) Spider-Man miniseries or original graphic novel. In the meantime, have two of my favorite lines from Carnage in other media that in retrospect were perfect foreshadowing for this moment.

    "We'll wreak glorious carnage throughout the land!" --- Cletus Kasady, before bonding with the Carnage symbiote in the 90s Spider-Man animated series.

    "When I get out, and I will . . . there's gonna be carnage." --- Kasady again, but in the stinger/mid-credits for last year's Venom movie.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    The X-Men deserve all the attention they can get, but that doesn't mean Absolute Carnage should be left by the wayside. What's happening with both of them is absolutely incredible, albeit in different ways. That said, I agree with everyone here that Spider-Man stole the show, and I would personally look forward to a Cates-written (preferably with Stegman joining him on art) Spider-Man miniseries or original graphic novel. In the meantime, have two of my favorite lines from Carnage in other media that in retrospect were perfect foreshadowing for this moment.

    "We'll wreak glorious carnage throughout the land!" --- Cletus Kasady, before bonding with the Carnage symbiote in the 90s Spider-Man animated series.

    "When I get out, and I will . . . there's gonna be carnage." --- Kasady again, but in the stinger/mid-credits for last year's Venom movie.
    You won’t get any debate from me. I actually feel that the X event deserves even more attention then what it’s getting lol. It’s on absolute fire right now. I do feel that it was poor timing to have this big event running at the same time though because I’m worried that people are going to pass over Absolute Carnage.

    After going back through the issue more praise needs to go to the artwork. Really sets the atmosphere for the tittle. Stegman is on point

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD155 View Post
    You won’t get any debate from me. I actually feel that the X event deserves even more attention then what it’s getting lol. It’s on absolute fire right now. I do feel that it was poor timing to have this big event running at the same time though because I’m worried that people are going to pass over Absolute Carnage.

    After going back through the issue more praise needs to go to the artwork. Really sets the atmosphere for the tittle. Stegman is on point
    He sure is. Stegman on anything Spider-Man/Venom-related is a treat for the eyes.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Great issue. Could’ve been in the pages of Venom instead of an event, but such is the way of comics now.
    Can’t wait to see where it goes.
    Love how even despite all this, we are still building up towards the huge Knull thing (whenever that will be)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD155 View Post
    You won’t get any debate from me. I actually feel that the X event deserves even more attention then what it’s getting lol. It’s on absolute fire right now. I do feel that it was poor timing to have this big event running at the same time though because I’m worried that people are going to pass over Absolute Carnage.
    This book is going to do just fine. No need to worry.

    I just read it and, my God, what a fu@king beast of an issue!!

    Cates and Stegman are such a killer creative team and they clearly poured a lot of love into this book. I can only imagine how insane the rest of this is going to be.

    But yeah, fantastic kick off. With this and House of X #2, it was one hell of a week for comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Warren View Post
    This book is going to do just fine. No need to worry.

    I just read it and, my God, what a fu@king beast of an issue!!

    Cates and Stegman are such a killer creative team and they clearly poured a lot of love into this book. I can only imagine how insane the rest of this is going to be.

    But yeah, fantastic kick off. With this and House of X #2, it was one hell of a week for comics.
    Agreed. This has been one fantastic span to be a comic book fan. Some really good stuff out there.
    i am worried if Spider-Man sticks around long term in this series though. I get the feeling that he will be in an issue or two more and then he and venom will part ways with Venom being the main star for the remaining issues. I’m hoping not because damn Spider-Man really stole the show in this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD155 View Post
    You won’t get any debate from me. I actually feel that the X event deserves even more attention then what it’s getting lol. It’s on absolute fire right now. I do feel that it was poor timing to have this big event running at the same time though because I’m worried that people are going to pass over Absolute Carnage.

    After going back through the issue more praise needs to go to the artwork. Really sets the atmosphere for the tittle. Stegman is on point
    I'm pretty it is although wasn't Carnage announced first so technically X-men is getting the major focus that Carnage should have been getting
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    Interesting The Maker appeared in both this and Future Foundation. Curious how that will be explained.

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