Nevermind dont see the point
Last edited by Midvillian1322; 08-26-2019 at 12:58 PM.
Crossover is not necessarily a problem, it’s how it done.
Beverly Hillbilly, Green Acres, Petticoat Junctions
The X-Files and Law and Order.
All in the family, The Jefferson, Good Times and Maude.
I know these are tv shows, but they were very good at crossover because they were independent and individual from the universe.
The problem is in the MCU, each movie is not independent and not an individual. It’s just one big continuing storyline. It’s a waste, there so many good stories that could’ve been told with each movie, but Kevin Feige choose to ignore that and made the MCU a ridiculous cash grab.
You are literally complaining about continuity/shared world how you guys even comic fans?
The large majority of MCU movies are independent stories, A post scene cameo /shield cameo or retcon artifact connection to infinite stones is what most MCU movies have as tangible connection yes they are couple of films that lean heavy on the MCU like Iron 2,Cap 2 and 3, Spiderman 2 but most movies have been unique stories. It is has been a real neat trick post credit about something coming up and people run around "They all connected"
Last edited by Killerbee911; 08-26-2019 at 07:09 PM.
marvel forums have mostly marvel comic book readers right? they were already around before the MCU? They raised concerns when Disney was buying marvel? They were around when blade was out, and xmen 2000 came out and spiderman 2002.
Blade, X-Men 1, X-Men 2, Spiderman 2002 and Spiderman 2 are Marvel movies. Spiderman 2 and X-Men 2 Nightcrawler white house scene and train scene alone has supreme visuals to black panther. X-Men 2 has a better cinematography. Peter Parker in spiderman 2 was a more interesting lead character to watch unfold on screen than black panther. What marvel fan forgets this classic? This is the best interpretation of peter parker. Stan Lee's relatable Everyman.
Before Johhny Cash's Logan there was rain drops were falling on my head. We didn't even have social media and hashtags back then but this became a morning motivational song for many marvel fans after spiderman 2. Sigh, once again I am blown away by ignorance. Some people actually think Marvel movies only started in 2008. Worse, they think Marvel fans only accept MCU movies as marvel movies? lol.
X-Men 2 is not only a good film drama because the director hated the basic perception of comic movies, X2 has already addressed all the social commentary and themes that black panther never fully did.
Blade was actually the first black superhero that achieved success , More importantly, Blade is also known as the first superhero movie that gave the genre some good will again after Batman and Robin.
So yeah, I think Marvel fans on the marvel forums would likely mostly just repeat everything I already said here. I think what you mean is how MCU fans would react to this response. MCU is not pure gold, just gold platted. You can blame their crossover cinematic obsession that never gives them a chance to expand upon a disciplined film making approach.
Last edited by Beaddle; 08-26-2019 at 10:31 PM.
Star Trek isn't one story, but seven and counting. Agreed, though, that the MCU is more ambitious in terms of story arcs and long term planning, not to mention becoming mainstream. Thing is, Star Trek did pioneer the idea of this sort of thing and it's kind of a shame to see it left out in the conversation of cinematic universes; everyone talks about the MCU like it was the first. (And, as others have stated, Star Trek wasn't the first either.)
(In any event, Star Trek manages to have a cohesive continuity between the TV and film installments, something the MCU has not been able to do.)
From my experience, he's already pretty locked into the opinion and won't change it; got into a back and forth alongside some other people in another thread that got so derailed repeating the same things that a moderator had to step in.
Doctor Strange: "You are the right person to replace Logan."
X-23: "I know there are people who disapprove... Guys on the Internet mainly."
(All-New Wolverine #4)
I am not making up anything. The only thing I would have to ask now is how old were you in 2004? Spiderman 2 was huge. even bigger in geek kingdom. we all sang that song in 2004.
Also marvel fans considers Blade, Xmen 1, Xmen 2, Spiderman 2 and Spiderman 2002 as marvel films because they are. they are not just marvel films that take place in the MCU.
I am sorry but this is getting really creepy how some people don't think marvel movies not in the crossover MCU are actually marvel films and think we are making it up that they are.
Last edited by Beaddle; 08-27-2019 at 03:33 AM.