That's fair, but if Colossus didn't get help from Negasonic and Yukio (feat. Live-wire Enema), Cain was going to kill him. Also, compare Colossus getting his tooth knocked out, and Cain getting his finger broken so bad it was hanging at ninety-degree angle ... it took Colossus a second to get right, Cain just called him a Commie and proceeded to slap the **** out of him.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
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Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Oh yeah. Cain was going to murder him. He also dented his skull iirc.
Not much of one honestly. Cain, on a good day, should pretty well trounce the guy in short order. I honestly think the gap between Colossus/Thing and any true Class 100 is pretty huge.
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"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
I don't know how the boards is treating current Thing's knockout of the Immortal Hulk.
It seems more like a plot induced level up. If it's accepted, then he'll likely take down Colossus.
But it just seems like a massive outlier.
Definitely has the outlier feel to it, especially since at the time the Thing was...pretty wrecked.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Almost metatextually, I feel like the writers *and* Ben would all agree that it was an outlier. The comic itself through dialogue states that:
1. This is the first time he's ever beaten the Hulk
2. Thing seriously damaged his arm doing so, Ben calling it his best Sunday Punch ever.
3. It was almost a fluke (Johnny chides him about it)
4. The effort to do so, combined with the Hulk beating him badly for most of the fight, put him in a coma for a week.
In other words, not only was this Ben's absolute best showing for a Hulk fight, it's so best-est that he won't be repeating it any time soon. This could very well be Peak Ben and it goes downhill from here. Suppose Hulk had managed to block or brace himself for that punch? Ben would've been a goner for sure.
If this punch is ever used in Rumbles, I feel like it has to be with the caveat that the opponent stays perfectly still (i.e. one of those "What's the Strongest Punch Superman Can Take?" type threads).
(also, the fight lasted for over an hour, not a minute)
(p.p.s. I don't know much about the Puppet Master. When he loses control of someone, do they black out? The force of Thing's punch caused feedback that destroyed the Hulk puppet that, um, Puppet Master was using for the fight.)
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I'm still going with the theory that Ben's punch broke Hulk free, and Hulk just took a dive as a belated wedding present.
Particularly because in his own book getting most of his brain blasted out the back of his head only reverts Devil Hulk to Savage, so a punch nthat should only cause a standard concussion shouldn't really phase him.
I really have no problem with this theory, frankly. Devil Hulk has a heart, too! (that Betty ate)
Come to think of it, the only time in this series that Hulk was truly KO'd through brute force was from orbital bombardment, IIRC. That's a far cry from a super-punch.Particularly because in his own book getting most of his brain blasted out the back of his head only reverts Devil Hulk to Savage, so a punch nthat should only cause a standard concussion shouldn't really phase him.
That was UV radiation. It turned him back into Banner, then gave him the worst sunburn imaginable.
#19 Showed what you need to do to actually *kill* the Hulk. Acid that shutdown his healing factor, combined with massive structural damage to the body culminating up to ripping out the heart and eating it.
Not sure how long it took him to revive, couldn't have been more than a few minutes, as Rickbomination hadn't vomited on her yet, they seemed like they just begun to fight.
I thought thing had better feats n durability guess not
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