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    Default DCEU Big Bads vs. MCU Big Bads

    Ares, Doomsday, Dr. Sivana

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    Thanos, Hela, Ultron


    Rules:
    Battleground: No Man’s Land (WWI)

    -Thanos has his Double-Edged Sword.
    -Ultron is in his final form. He has +20 Sentries assisting him in battle.
    -Hela is at full power (even though she's not on Asgard).
    -Sivana possesses the Seven Deadly Sins (or is it the other way around?).
    -Ares isn't starting at full power. He's fighting at the level he was when he fought Diana; however, if Ares is the last one standing on his team, his full power will return.

    If the battle becomes one-sided in DCEU's favor, Thanos and Hela are allowed to call down reinforcements:
    -The Black Order (Ebony Maw, Cull Obsidian, Corvus Glaive, Proxima Midnight)
    -Fenris


    BONUS: Ares, Doomsday, Dr. Sivana vs. Surtur

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    Not really even a fight. I feel bad for DC.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Not really even a fight. I feel bad for DC.
    Why do you think that? The Thanos v Doomsday thread was far from conclusive just for starters.

    I'm not even saying DCEU wins. Just curious why you feel it's so one sided?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Why do you think that? The Thanos v Doomsday thread was far from conclusive just for starters.

    I'm not even saying DCEU wins. Just curious why you feel it's so one sided?
    Cuz it's essentially Doomsday vs. Hela, Thanos, and Vibranium Body Ultron w/20 Sentries.

    Thanos has his Vibranium Smashing Weapon, Hela's at full power, and Ultron was durable enough to survive a triple attack from Vision's Mind Stone, Thor's Lighting, and Iron Man's repulsor combined. The 20 can run interference long enough for the other two (three if you count Ultron Prime) to end this.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Cuz it's essentially Doomsday vs. Hela, Thanos, and Vibranium Body Ultron w/20 Sentries.

    Thanos has his Vibranium Smashing Weapon, Hela's at full power, and Ultron was durable enough to survive a triple attack from Vision's Mind Stone, Thor's Lighting, and Iron Man's repulsor combined. The 20 can run interference long enough for the other two (three if you count Ultron Prime) to end this.
    I totally agree with this assessment.

    That is, I would totally agree if it actually were just Doomsday versus that bunch. But it's definitely not.

    For example, why wouldn't Ares teleport behind the enemy team at the start of the bell (or go invisible) and start casting illusions into their heads* or doing... whatever he did to Diana's sword to their bodies? Alternatively, he can use his TK like a shield to block Hela's projectile spam or steal one of her blades from said spam and then teleport behind them and start stabbing.

    Sivana is the weak link here, but even he has more speed then anyone else and is strong enough to overpower a dude who caught a bus. Plus summoning the Sins. He's excellent cleanup for the Ultron drones.

    Again, I actually think team MCU has some advantages here, but to completely ignore Doomsday's team mates feels off to me personally.

    *Thanos should at least shrug this off, but Hela has no feats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    I totally agree with this assessment.

    That is, I would totally agree if it actually were just Doomsday versus that bunch.
    Then we ag-

    But it's definitely not.
    CURSE YOU !

    For example, why wouldn't Ares teleport behind the enemy team at the start of the bell (or go invisible) and start casting illusions into their heads* or doing... whatever he did to Diana's sword to their bodies? Alternatively, he can use his TK like a shield to block Hela's projectile spam or steal one of her blades from said spam and then teleport behind them and start stabbing.
    I don't see Ares as able to block projectiles from Hela, considering they were punching holes in Surtur (who treated the Hulk whaling on him like a minor annoyance), just fine. I could see the mind whammy working, but ultimately don't see him doing that faster than Hela can fling projectiles downrange and skewer Doomsday ? She was doing it with a hand gesture, flinging massive massive murder projectiles ... and I also don't see Ares stealing one of those.

    Mileage may vary.

    Also wouldn't place him as able to manipulate people's bodies like he can weapons, considering his sthick is control/empowerment by war (IE, weapons of war being something he can possess). But I'd also say there's a limit to what he can control based on presented feats. Maybe one of Hela's smaller weapons (mainly the size just making it unwieldy/he never showcased an ability to TK something that heavy) but not the Vibranium smasher ?

    Again, mileage.

    Sivana is the weak link here, but even he has more speed then anyone else and is strong enough to overpower a dude who caught a bus. Plus summoning the Sins. He's excellent cleanup for the Ultron drones.
    They are the distraction, yes.

    Again, I actually think team MCU has some advantages here, but to completely ignore Doomsday's team mates feels off to me personally.
    His allies have comparatively little to offer in the grand scheme of things, methinks. Though I well could be wrong on this and be seduced with feats.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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