Who has more.... PRIDE!?
Bonus: Arena fight. Full power Escanor vs Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Who has more.... PRIDE!?
Bonus: Arena fight. Full power Escanor vs Saiyan Saga Vegeta
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- big_adventure
Is it pride or stupidity that makes Vegeta not realise his limitations during this era?
I think that'll be key to determining this pride off.
I mean ... Escanor has so much pride it earned him the position of "The Lion's Sin of Pride." It's so integral to who he is as a person, he's essentially just the personification of Pride at this point.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Vegeta is so prideful that the pride of a duplicate of Vegeta was so great it broke free of it's creator's control, punched out its creator, and challenged Goku to a fight because he wanted to beat Goku and prove himself better. And the real Vegeta, who was being erased from existence due to said duplicate, was pissed the duplicate was fighting Goku and flipped-flopped between wanting Goku to win and save him and wanting the duplicate Vegeta to win since it's still his image losing to Goku.
Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence.
- C.S. Lewis
Ichigo: What even *are* you?!
Kenpachi: Some say my mother was a train. Some say that I'm a rejected Godzilla monster too strong for the series canon. But everyone says: I'M THE KEEEEENPACHIIIIII!!!!
Is not accepting help truly "pride" though, or just insecurity?
The fact that Escanor's pride isn't shaken even when he needs assistance or things don't go his way is why I give him the "win" in this category.
Escanor's speech against the vampire king was super epic though.
All reading this thread does is make me feel Vegeta has a lot of pride, but some level of insecurity, as morning mentioned. Or maybe, Vegeta is more prideful, to the point it truly is a vice, where as Escanor is probably as prideful as you can get without it obviously being to ones detriment.
Escanor almost never gives a shit, because he's awesome, and if you manage to make something happen, good for you, you still suck.
By contrast, any situation that Vegeta involves himself in usually results in him doing stupid things just to prove he's so awesome. I mean, there are exceptions, and he's grown out of most of it, but...Yeah.
I would say Vegeta is more prideful, but in the worst way and also has a level of insecurity that rivals it, and goes full toxic at its worst. Escanors concern is solely on himself in his inherent superiority, where as Vegeta goes out of his way to prove that he is superior, and anything that might slightly question it drives him nuts.
But, Escanor is pure, sweet, delicious pride.
For what it's worth, Escanor didn't spend most of his life under the thumb of a guy that could crush him like a gnat with the slightest thought, who had also swatted his entire race.
Now that Vegeta got people he cares about, he's a lot more mellow and comedic with his pride, being able to swallow it to try and entertain or train under Buu, while also being able to use his pride to super-boost his Super Saiyajin God powers to allow him to overpower a new-born God of Destruction and kinda-sorta keep pace with Jiren for a short while.