View Poll Results: Tell me true. Who had the most offensive X-Men run?

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  • Marc Guggenheim

    32 36.36%
  • Brian Michael Bendis

    20 22.73%
  • Joss Whedon

    5 5.68%
  • Rick Remender

    7 7.95%
  • Chuck Austen

    45 51.14%
  • Matt Fraction

    9 10.23%
  • Warren Ellis

    3 3.41%
  • Matthew Rosenberg

    31 35.23%
  • Brian Wood

    7 7.95%
  • Other

    4 4.55%
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    Worst to Best!!! I enjoyed everything in bold.

    Austen
    Rosenberg
    Guggenheim
    Fraction
    Ellis
    Remender
    Wood
    Whedon
    Bendis

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    Quote Originally Posted by coveredinbees View Post
    Another classic moment from Chuck Austen:
    God. even the art looks like it's on drugs.

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    I've read only half of these runs.

    Austen is the worst... I remember reading it because I loved Northstar, Havok and having angel back... and no... just... no.

    So okay it was average
    Fraction
    Wood
    Bendis

    Didn't read Remender outside X-Force.
    I don't remember Ellis run but I dislike Ellis on mainstream comics.
    Didn't read Rosengerg, I hate him killing characters.
    Didn't read Guggenheim

    Whedon brought me back Colossus and had an interesting Cyclops so it's fine with me.

    I'm surprised Morrison is not on the list.

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    Rosenberg
    Austin
    Remender
    Fraction
    Guggenheim
    Wood
    Whedon
    Bendis

    I don't even remember what Ellis wrote, so I couldn't rank him. Some of the above are really close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizashi View Post
    You rank Bendis above Whedon? Huh.
    The Bendis run got me into collecting comics weekly again instead of just waiting for trades. I liked the setup, with the veterans powers not working properly so they have to come up with smarter ways of fighting. Emma had some truly amazing moments (The whole mission with Deeds and Magik, the Girls Night Out), and it never really got bad, just mediocre. Obviously the Matthew Malloy stuff was dumb as hell, and the ending got ignored because it tried to affect the status quo too much, but it wasn't bad.

    Whedon's run, while fun with excellent character moments, had way too many "What a twist!" moments that made it hard to really enjoy. And while having the team get their asses kicked to establish the threat is fine, having it happen every single arc (Ord, Danger, Genetech, Nova, Break World) gets old fast.

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    Why Morrison isn't here? what he did to Jean and Magneto was pretty offensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Why Morrison isn't here? what he did to Jean and Magneto was pretty offensive
    I'm afraid you'll have to provide evidence if you want to bring this accusation to trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Why Morrison isn't here? what he did to Jean and Magneto was pretty offensive
    1. A character dying heroically isn't offensive.

    2. Not every person is caught in one (and EXACTLY ONE) moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    1. A character dying heroically isn't offensive.

    2. Not every person is caught in one (and EXACTLY ONE) moment in time.
    1. It wasn't heroic, it was pathetic
    2. seems like majority of readers are

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    1. A character dying heroically isn't offensive.

    2. Not every person is caught in one (and EXACTLY ONE) moment in time.
    You could consider what he did to Magneto offensive though, at least, i know that some of his fans feel like that. And most readers definetly disagreed with Morrison assesment of the characther.
    "Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
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    Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness

    "I am Thou, Thou Art I"
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    1. It wasn't heroic, it was pathetic
    2. seems like majority of readers are
    1. She was a big part of the team that beat Xorn, and only died because he pulled a power out of his ass that he never used before, and has never seen since. How is that offensive?

    2. REDACTED.
    Last edited by PsychoEFrost; 08-28-2019 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    You could consider what he did to Magneto offensive though, at least, i know that some of his fans feel like that. And most readers definetly disagreed with Morrison assesment of the characther.
    I mean, that is why they had to retcon that incident from orbit. It was monstrously offensive, I'm not arguing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    You could consider what he did to Magneto offensive though, at least, i know that some of his fans feel like that. And most readers definetly disagreed with Morrison assesment of the characther.
    Not only the magneto as xorn putting people on ovens was awful, him grooming teenager Esme was also pretty bad.
    This should qualify as ofensive bad writing

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    Austen was his own brand of BAD. Like, holy crap, dude.

    Guggenheim comes after, with Rosenberg in hand.

    Then we had Fraction, Ellis and Wood.

    Remender was a bit of editorial hand + his own incapacity of writing anyone that isn't an anti-hero or a plain ******* (and who is portrayed as an *******, unlike Alex, who was one, but portrayed as a hero). Still pretty bad.

    I can't bring myself to call Whedon bad, so I'm sorry for that.

    Bendis had potential, but lo and behold, couldn't deliver it before the editorial hand tried to snuff the X-Men.

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    I was a little offended! What is a planetary stroke to someone who survived incinerating in our sun?


    JGG is right! Is Jean Grey's finest hour Morrison's worst? Consider him a late addition to the poll, my friends, whether you are trapped in an era or free to judge these eminent men from a perch in the White Hot Room.
    Last edited by coveredinbees; 08-28-2019 at 06:48 PM.

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