Nate Grey vs Cable

[Morning]

That's probably a bridge too far, just because Norrin has such a speed edge. Nate, given the chance to act, might be able to mind-whammy the Surfer, or win a transmutation battle. But here he just doesn't get the chance to act. And, while Nate has the feats for acting as a disembodied astral spirit, I don't know that this helps him if he's instead turned into a teacup or sucked into a singularity before he can think.

It's not at all clear to me if Nate even needs his physical body, except to play human when it suits him. PIS off, I don't think Norrin has any way to win; while Nate could eventually beat him down on the psychic plane.

[big_adventure]

It's not at all clear to me if Nate even needs his physical body, except to play human when it suits him. PIS off, I don't think Norrin has any way to win; while Nate could eventually beat him down on the psychic plane.

I wouldn't rule it out, you know. It just depends on what Norrin does, I guess, and whether the esoteric effect works for a 10 count or a win.