Reading List (Super behind but reading them nonetheless):
DC: Currently figuring that out
Marvel: Read above
Image: Killadelphia, Nightmare Blog
Other: The Antagonist, Something is Killing the Children, Avatar: TLAB
Manga: My Hero Academia, MHA: Vigilanties, Soul Eater: the Perfect Edition, Berserk, Hunter X Hunter, Witch Hat Atelier, Kaiju No. 8
My nutty opinion is as follows:
Wally West is the Flash
So is Jay Garrick
So is Barry Allen
And guess what? Readers are OK with that.
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
Reading List (Super behind but reading them nonetheless):
DC: Currently figuring that out
Marvel: Read above
Image: Killadelphia, Nightmare Blog
Other: The Antagonist, Something is Killing the Children, Avatar: TLAB
Manga: My Hero Academia, MHA: Vigilanties, Soul Eater: the Perfect Edition, Berserk, Hunter X Hunter, Witch Hat Atelier, Kaiju No. 8
I can see where that might be a problem, but I don't know if I'd want a whole line. I'm picturing something more like Earth 2, a single book that follows all the characters, under strict editorial mandate not to let anything get more fantastical than the Fleischer cartoons.
WELL. Maybe not the Fleischer cartoons. Superman's strength is really inconsistent in those. But something on that level. Each character would get a detailed characterization and power guide, potentially incompatible with the rest of the DCU.
Would this ever happen? Probably not, but who cares? It's the fun of it.
"You know the deal, Metropolis. Treat people right or expect a visit from me."
ConnEr Kent flies. ConnOr Hawke has a bow. Batman's kid is named DamiAn.
To do spoiler tags, use [ spoil ] at the start of the sentence and [ /spoil ] at the end, without the spaces. You're welcome!
A Wonder Woman vs the Elite (or whatever strawman antihero was created to complain about 90s antiheroes) would be far more interesting than with what usually happens with Superman or Batman. The discussion would not be so black and white and dig into the nuances of different situations where lethal force is used and the consequences that can follow when a superhero kills.
If it does come to the Elite deciding to come to blows with Diana, I'd also like her to point out to them that she is not only a member of the Justice League and has friends among a few governments but is also a foreign dignitary. This could be interesting as it could lead to Black trying to figure out other ways to clash with Diana while she does the same.
I think most of the time Clark holds back his powers and only uses them fully when he has no choice due to bigger threats characters like Zod and Darkside.
"Dangerous Zombie! Transform!! Click And Load! Buggle UP! Danger! Danger! Death The Crisis! Dangerous Zombie!" Kamen Rider Gemn
(In first he's mysterious and evil and now he's psycho and crazy and insane and evil AND "The Meme Lord"LOL.)
Who is The Flash? The Fastest Man Alive.
How is the Fastest Man Alive three different people?
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998; 09-15-2019 at 01:05 PM.
"Dangerous Zombie! Transform!! Click And Load! Buggle UP! Danger! Danger! Death The Crisis! Dangerous Zombie!" Kamen Rider Gemn
(In first he's mysterious and evil and now he's psycho and crazy and insane and evil AND "The Meme Lord"LOL.)
I loved this exchange! You two crack me up!
This. I'm a well known Golden Age fan and I've said before that bringing Clark back down to "leap tall buildings" levels could be a lot of fun but if you do, you're completely shifting the thematics behind the character and the DCU itself. Superman's whole deal is that he's supposed to be the strongest guy around, and his story is all about his restraint and how he decides to apply that power and where he decides not to. You de-power him without doing it across the board and it changes *everything* about DC. And that *could* be an interesting story, because its not the raw power that makes Clark a hero, but nerfing him and not everyone else is changing the foundations of the entire universe and you better know what you're doing, and you better be doing it for better reasons than a personal bias against Superman, because that motivation will only lead to ruin for everybody.
If you dont like highly powerful heroes, I get it. And hey, they *are* harder to write; you need an actual imagination to challenge Superman or Green Lantern or Flash, while guys like Batman and Arrow just need a smuck with a gun (if you forget the Batgod anyway, who's the most ridiculously powerful d-bag in comics). And I can see the argument for de-powering everyone. I'd love a pulp style JSA story with all the old classic heroes, back when a battalion of nazi soldiers were a serious threat to the heroes.
But if the problem is just that Superman is too powerful....then that's just BS. Clark's not even the most powerful guy in the League's speed dial. We've got reality warpers like Firestorm, Fate, Zatanna, etc., and people like Diana, Shazam, and J'onn, who are all *almost* as physically strong, have fewer weaknesses, and almost as much (or more) utility. Tell me, Diana is almost as strong as Clark, has no weaknesses at all, and is a better fighter. How is she not over powered but Clark is? Shazam is almost as strong as Clark (equally strong if you listen to his fans), has no weaknesses, and has access to the ultimate plot device power; magic. J'onn is almost as strong as Clark, has fewer weaknesses (though, I'll admit, fire is a pretty major flaw....but still, it's one weaknesses compared to Clark's 3-5), and has even more powers than Clark himself does. If those guys aren't OP, neither is Superman. And if you think he is....then that's just a personal bias.....likely caused by not reading enough Superman.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
I think three characters running around calling themselves The Flash is stupid. The same way three characters regularly flying around calling themselves Superman would be stupid. I can completely understand why Dan DiDio wouldn't want something like that. It's just not a good concept. It might work for a story line, but not for something to have regularly. It works for Green Lantern (barely, if at all) because it's rooted in the concept of the heroes being part of a Corps in which the members are called "Green Lanterns".