You have previously said that infidelity (even in the crazy small sense of Scott and Emma) is worse than assault, murder, rape and genocide. No one is going to be able to say anything on that, because that would be impossible. Unless it's Jean trying to get with Logan while married, in which case it's fine.
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The broader, pre-Morrison metaphor was more inclusive.
LGBT and African-Americans don't have a monopoly on being abused, oppressed, persecuted, and threatened. Presuming that they do, as you have done here, denies the experiences of other people who've suffered. Check your privilege.
Cyclops isn't oppressed but he isn't the symbol of white supremacy either as some try to make.
He is an ally, all the X-men are, even freaking Emma Frost.
How are the X-Men allies......if they are mutants................who are oppressed? I’m begging someone ANYONE to help make this make sense.
Well, you see. According to these boards Scott's entire character is being a white male and nothing more and his status as a mutant doesn't count as minority or oppression.
that's at least what i read every time someone tries to say Scott or Emma or Jean count as a minority or oppressed. The answer is most of the time that they don't.
Check yours first. Three-time suicide survivor, bullied most of my life, son of a lesbian and a bi-sexual woman. CHECK. YOURS. FIRST.
The X-Men have ALWAYS been a metaphor for the ongoing Civil Rights Movement. To pretend otherwise is to plainly ignore the facts.
The only one denying the experience of those who have suffered is you pretending that being a social outcast is the same as having your civil rights taken away. Of being attacked in the streets by police while crowds cheer for your blood. Or being hung from a tree because your girlfriend was white. Or being chained to a barbed wire fence and beaten to death because an asshole in a bar thought you were hitting on him.
That's... completely wrong.
Mutants are the most oppressed minority in the 616 universe. That doesn't take away from the suffering of real minorities in our world, but to say they aren't oppressed when the government has tried to murder them for how they were born 1,000 times is just plain false.
crazy small sense? I really think that betray their loved ones is a really big mistake and completely turn me off. Of course infidelity isn't the biggest crime, but the way Scott commited it and followed it was pretty cruel
I'm pretty sure Jean didn't tried to get Logan, It's pretty obvious that she wanted Scott and not Logan. If she wanted Logan, she would get him
I think this is what happens when you conflate criticism of what Cyclops represents to the brand of the X-Men in a meta-narrative sense and his actual role as the leader of an oppressed group that is a stand-in for black, LGBTQ+ community, disabled lives in-universe. No one is gonna call those able-bodied, heterosexual, cisgender white ppl “minorities” or “oppressed” in that sense because what it’s usually being compared to is something steeped in reality...like actual marginalized identities getting discriminated against.