NFL 2019 Season Thread

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Given how bad the Bengals and Redskins are , the 2 teams have to examine giving Kaepernick a few weeks to end the season after a week of practice. To see what is there given how bad things are right now. They aren't winning games clearly , but in Bengals case maybe Kaepernick can excite a fanbase that clearly is pissed at Brown right now.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

So in a cool NFL record note , Frank Gore became the 4th RB in NFL history with over 3,500 career carries. Gore's role has cut down as the Bills have went to the younger Singletary to be the main RB.

Also Mitchell Trubisky is having his typical game of not being effective at all tonight.

[TriggerWarning]

When you have more talent than half the QBs now starting, and the only reason you are not playing is you made a political statement, Why would you not feel entitled to play. Especially since it looks like no other transgression, even domestic abuse, drugs and murder, will eliminate a player.

Utterly ridiculous statement to say he's better than half the QB's in the league right now. There are 32 teams in the league.

Starters he's not even remotely close to in ability as these are the elite QB's of the league (sorted by division, not by any rank): Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Phillip Rivers, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford (though he is out due to injury right now), Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson.

Thats 13 that it would be laughable to compare against.

Starters that are definitely better but aren't elite QB's of the current league: Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Baker Mayfield, Jacoby Brissett, Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Derek Carr, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garrapolo, Jared Goff, and Kyler Murray.

Thats 12 more and its not even counting Cam Newton and Ben Rapistberger who will be back next year.

Of the seven remaining they are starting first or second year QB's where teams are out of contention but are starting young QB's to see if they can be the QB of the future. He would probably be an upgrade over guys like Ryan Finley or Dwayne Haskins right now but those teams are going nowhere this season so the goal is to give them reps in order to see if they can be the guy next season. So it would make no sense to have Kaep be the starter.

The only place Kaep would make any sense right now, assuming a team thought they could coach him into reading an offense and accuracy, is on a contender where they have an established starter but are not confident in the backup. Seattle for instance. Russell Wilson is arguably the best QB not named Mahomes in the league so he's going nowhere but if he got hurt then Kaep might be worthy of a spot to either backup Geno Smith or even start in front of him.

[TriggerWarning]

Given how bad the Bengals and Redskins are , the 2 teams have to examine giving Kaepernick a few weeks to end the season after a week of practice. To see what is there given how bad things are right now. They aren't winning games clearly , but in Bengals case maybe Kaepernick can excite a fanbase that clearly is pissed at Brown right now.

To what purpose?

The Bengals need to see if Finley can be the guy before they spend their likely 1st overall pick on Joe Burrow (depending on Tua's health). Makes no sense to start anyone but Finley for a team going nowhere.

Likewise the Redskins will also be drafting 5 and probably top 3. They need to see if Haskins can be the guy so they can grab Chase Young or if they need to go after Tua, Justin Herbert, or some other QB.

It would be utterly ridiculous for either to sign Kaep. Their seasons are going nowhere so its all about seeing what they've currently got at QB, not seeing if Kaep can somehow turn back time and be the QB he was 3-4 years before he left the league rather than the crappy QB he was the last two years in the league.

[worstblogever]

I dig Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald as a fan of defense...

But whoever thought having those two turned loose on a QB matchup of Goff vs. Trubisky and put THAT in primetime...

Ugh. This is painful to watch. It's more about how inept the QBs are than how good the defenses are. Which is sad, because both the Bears and Rams have weapons at the skill positions. Neither signal-caller has an excuse.

[The Big G]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/...s-safety-pics/

I hope he's ok....this **** is serious.

[The Big G]

A God Damn Legend

[WestPhillyPunisher]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/...s-safety-pics/

I hope he's ok....this **** is serious.

Yeah, that certainly sounds very ominous. The guy's family and friends need to look in on him ASAP.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

To what purpose?

The Bengals need to see if Finley can be the guy before they spend their likely 1st overall pick on Joe Burrow (depending on Tua's health). Makes no sense to start anyone but Finley for a team going nowhere.

Finley isn't setting the world on fire at all and is A 4th rd pick. They can move on pretty damn quick more or less. Right now Finley isn't getting the team wins and the team could end up 0-16 this season.

Likewise the Redskins will also be drafting 5 and probably top 3. They need to see if Haskins can be the guy so they can grab Chase Young or if they need to go after Tua, Justin Herbert, or some other QB.

Haskins hasn't been ready for the entire season. A fact that Bill Callahan himself brought up that Haskins was a long term project and had been on practice squad running plays. And it shows. He's struggling badly due to being thrown out there due to Keenum's injury and McCoy unable to play. But he's no where close to playing.

It would be utterly ridiculous for either to sign Kaep. Their seasons are going nowhere so its all about seeing what they've currently got at QB, not seeing if Kaep can somehow turn back time and be the QB he was 3-4 years before he left the league rather than the crappy QB he was the last two years in the league.

Given the facts and figures discounted you last time you made claims about Kaepernick's final season with the 49ers ...this needs to be reminded again.


- Colin Kaepernick started half the season and should have started sooner. He was more effective a QB than the current backup QB in Tampa in Blaine Gabbert that year.

- The 49ers starting WR's had 1 player end his career after 2016. Then the other was a career journey man WR who never had over 12 yards a reception. Both are out of NFL right now and those were starting WR's in 2016 with 49ers.


- Chip Kelly's system was one Kaepernick was running and he ran it better than Gabbert as the team stuck by him for so many games.

- You once made a claim Kaepernick's final game was terrible. Yet as I proved you were wrong and he started the final month and his final game was this : 17/22 for 215 yards 1 TD . In a close loss to Seattle.


Now lets be honest , if a team like Washington is signing guys who haven't started a game since 2011 like last year , then obviously they should sign someone who had started games since then. Colin Kaepernick is sitting at home not because of talent , its because teams are scared. They would rather in Washington's case sign a domestic abuser and float how he deserves a 2nd chance as they did than sign a guy taking a knee.

And comically the guy taking that knee may have helped them win games the last 2 seasons.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

How bad was it for Haskins and the Redskins ? In a video shown on this link Haskins is seen begging the offensive line on what does he have to do , to help them ?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...help-you-to-ol

I do feel for Haskins as he clearly should not be starting this year due to only 1 year of college experience and being brought along slowly. Instead he thrown out there way before he's ready and is struggling through sacks and turnovers.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

How bad was it for Haskins and the Redskins ? In a video shown on this link Haskins is seen begging the offensive line on what does he have to do , to help them ?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...help-you-to-ol

I do feel for Haskins as he clearly should not be starting this year due to only 1 year of college experience and being brought along slowly. Instead he thrown out there way before he's ready and is struggling through sacks and turnovers.

Good Lord. That's more embarrassing than Sam Darnold being caught on a live mike saying he saw ghosts. At this rate, Haskins will be out of the league inside of two years because he is NOT and NFL caliber quarterback, hell, right now, he's not even a mediocre passer.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Good Lord. That's more embarrassing than Sam Darnold being caught on a live mike saying he saw ghosts. At this rate, Haskins will be out of the league inside of two years because he is NOT and NFL caliber quarterback, hell, right now, he's not even a mediocre passer.

He only had 1 year of starting experience in college. He clearly should not be starting right now due to having to come along slowly. Aikman and others pointed this out. So again with Keenum and McCoy out , why aren't you kicking the wheels on Kaepernick ? At least he has started and you can let Haskins sit and learn more.

[TriggerWarning]

He only had 1 year of starting experience in college. He clearly should not be starting right now due to having to come along slowly. Aikman and others pointed this out. So again with Keenum and McCoy out , why aren't you kicking the wheels on Kaepernick ? At least he has started and you can let Haskins sit and learn more.

Again, whats the benefit? Lets say Kaep ends up being the imaginary great QB you think he is and actually helps the Redskins win a few games. All that will do is cost the Redskins a few draft spots as they aren't making the playoffs. When your season is a lost cause develop the QB's you've got instead of kicking the tires on a guy who wasn't good when he left the league and hasn't played in 3 years.

Sides which they already have Case Keenum on the team and Kaep is not an upgrade from him. If its about putting a veteran QB in there then just roll with the guy on your team who already knows the offense.

Also the game I'm talking about that was so bad of Kaep was the game he played against the Bears in December of 2016. Through three quarters he was 1 of 5 passing for 4 yards. He took five sacks. He got benched for Gabbert in the 4th quarter who went 4 for 10 for 35 yards which obviously isn't good either. Across the field all time great, er wait career backup Matt Barkley went 11-18 for 192 yards.

[Surf]

A God Damn Legend

Perfect.

I dig Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald as a fan of defense...

But whoever thought having those two turned loose on a QB matchup of Goff vs. Trubisky and put THAT in primetime...

Ugh. This is painful to watch. It's more about how inept the QBs are than how good the defenses are. Which is sad, because both the Bears and Rams have weapons at the skill positions. Neither signal-caller has an excuse.

^This.



I'm starting to fkn cool on Carson Wentz, It's like that scene in T2, "Wenntzzz, c'mon man, you can't be leaving the ball on the turf like thaaat!" I just needed you to do that one little thing and beat N.E., that's it, I know Philly is hurting, bad- but damn they had them early. The Pats are going to moonwalk into a #1 seed yet again and their remaining schedule are Dallas, @Houston, Chefs, @Cinci, Buffalo and Miami. I don't feel good about any of those games out side of Buffalo and maybe Dallas.

Short week for Your Colts and they are dinged but now we got Marcus Johnson and Jonathan Williams that came out of mothballs and came up BIG yesterday. Every year somebody marks some other team than the Colts as South winners, as of late it's gone back and forth between the Jags and the Texans but people don't realize that neither of these teams are winners as a rule. They get flashy pieces and parts and to their credit work that **** as best they can but what they do know is how to lose. Colts had the embarrassment of the weekend last week in falling to the Dolphins but hopefully if they can pull one out on a short week will have sole lead in the South and ten days off until the Tacks come back to Indy. This team outta be 7-3 WITH that bad beat to Miami.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Again, whats the benefit?

The benefit is to Haskins career long term. He's the long term kid your building up. He's not ready yet and throwing him to the wolves early can crack someone. See how that hurt Blaine Gabbert years ago. The belief early by coaches was that Gabbert would sit a long while til he was ready. Instead what happened was after 1 week , the Jaguars panicked and threw Gabbert out there. Destroying his confidence with terrible sacks and turnovers. Gabbert is now a QB who is ok to fill in but his career was killed early on by this.

Lets say Kaep ends up being the imaginary great QB you think he is and actually helps the Redskins win a few games. All that will do is cost the Redskins a few draft spots as they aren't making the playoffs. When your season is a lost cause develop the QB's you've got instead of kicking the tires on a guy who wasn't good when he left the league and hasn't played in 3 years.

Right now the benefit is for the team and Haskins to have someone step in and play awhile. It allows the offensive line to not have videos shown as above where Haskins is getting beaten like a rag doll. This allows the offense and players the team gets to grow into playmakers. Its what happened in KC. Mahomes by sitting a season saw players like Kelce and Tyreek Hill become star players. Once he came in it was easy for him to take over. Right now the Redskins are a hodge podge team of veterans and youth. Peterson is 33 and leaned on heavy but is 33 at RB. They have a young dynamic WR who they are high on but Haskins growing struggles is dragging him down.

Yes it means they can win a game or two possibly. Slipping down a few notches come draft day but hell the alternative is what were seeing as now as no one is doing well. Haskins is struggling , Peterson is too old to depend on at RB at 33 to carry a team and your WR your high on is going through struggles as Haskins develops.

Sides which they already have Case Keenum on the team and Kaep is not an upgrade from him. If its about putting a veteran QB in there then just roll with the guy on your team who already knows the offense.

Keenum is a decent backup QB but has struggled with health this season. Its why Haskins was forced in. Keenum is a decent backup QB , but its clear even when he did start he wasn't the guy to bridge to Haskins.

Also the game I'm talking about that was so bad of Kaep was the game he played against the Bears in December of 2016. Through three quarters he was 1 of 5 passing for 4 yards. He took five sacks. He got benched for Gabbert in the 4th quarter who went 4 for 10 for 35 yards which obviously isn't good either. Across the field all time great, er wait career backup Matt Barkley went 11-18 for 192 yards.

Here is Kaepernick's game logs ...your looking at a game from early December , this was his work the rest of the way.

http://www.nfl.com/player/colinkaepe...95186/gamelogs


Kaepernick after the Bears game the final 4 weeks of the season threw for 797 yards , 6 TD's and 1 Int the rest of the way. Which isn't perfect but given who the 49ers had offensively is big.

Right now the Redskins need a bridge QB. They need someone who can start a season or two to let Haskins grow into a starter. The results have seen him struggle for games and the risk is there it could hit his confidence and break him early. Which is sad if this happens as all the team had to do was bring in a veteran QB who could stay healthy and help the team. Keenum hasn't done it , McCoy hasn't even seen the field due to injury.