Ringoess Hal ? Is that an alternate universe Hal Jordan that married Ringo Star ?
As to your actual point though, that's how I see it.
Ringoess Hal ? Is that an alternate universe Hal Jordan that married Ringo Star ?
As to your actual point though, that's how I see it.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
Did he ever explain what he meant by "thorough," or how exactly he did it? No. So we shouldn't assume.
It's just an example. We don't actually know where he went, what he did or why.Also, conflating the Power Cosmic with like... radio waves or whatever you are doing feels way off.
All the more reason not to assume he had to fly around the world to search it...Surfer has picked up on events happening light years away before in /real time/.
Feel like you are ignoring the provided context of Strange having just performed an Astral scan. More of that kind of thing would be senseless.
How fast do you feel Surfer is?
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
You guys keep saying that as if cosmic awareness is a real thing of which we know the rules. :-D I also didn't say he used cosmic awareness, just that it is one of the many other sensory options at his disposal. The sheer fact that he has options is why we can't say what he actually used.
We dont see him do that though. We see Peter Quill do it when piloting a starship, or Worldmind do it when plotting a jump for Nova. But all the evidence points to Surfer just freestyling. Notice how he acclerates, turns and stops on a dime all without any on panel evidence of forethought.If you plot a course well it should be easy enough to straight line without hitting anything, and Surfer (or other Heralds, or Superman, Thor, or Green Lanterns) definitely have the sensory capacity to pull that off.
https://imgur.com/C9w1Trh
http://i.imgur.com/Wl7489L.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0dslPGf.jpg
I'm curious to see it.I can dig up scans of a ringless Hal Jordan specifically disabling the navigation program on an extremely FTL ship so it could go as fast as possible and then manually steering the thing past planets.
Whether cosmic awareness and astral senses are technically even the same "kind of thing" is debatable. But my point still stands that we don't know what kind of thing he actually tries.
What do you think he did? Flew around the world? Flew around the world 10 times, to be thorough? A hundred times? Maybe he just flew into space so he could see the whole planet at once. Or maybe altitude really does help him "sense" his surroundings. At the end of the day, we are given literally ZERO information with which to form a conclusion.
I don't know. But my issue is with this one feat, since it doesn't actually happen on panel, not with Surfer's speed in general.How fast do you feel Surfer is?
If not for speed disparity, I'd give this to Midora.
Just to check, I reread the final battle chapters of Toriko where Midora does a bunch of things and while Surfer would notice him, I'm less sure he could actually hurt him that much.
Dude can hang out in black holes and can fly through suns while deep in though. Surfer is ridiculously difficult to hurt. I'm not sure what Midora has that could hurt him. Most destructive feat he has is him messing up an area greater than planet earth with a single attack and then just throwing that out multiple times but that's not really enough gun to deal with Surfer at his best.
Could be. Or it could be that Minority World would simply take the small percentage of atoms in Surfer's body that suffered any damage and make them the majority.
I'm curious as to which feat this was.Most destructive feat he has is him messing up an area greater than planet earth with a single attack and then just throwing that out multiple times but that's not really enough gun to deal with Surfer at his best.
This one is pretty impressive (https://imgur.com/a/Qgrzx), especially when we remember that Toriko-Earth is many times larger than real-Earth to begin with--each of the explosions Midora creates on Gourmet Hand is probably about planet-sized. We also know, via powerscaling, that he hits harder than the Heavenly Kings AND can reflect attacks back to sender (https://imgur.com/a/VKpYy). It's safe to say Midora is capable of at least spamming planet-busters* all day long, with Minority World to instantly turn any atom-sized damage into catastrophic damage.
EDIT: of course, it's also possible that Surfer would be able to cosmically sense the true nature of Gourmet luck and come up with a way to disable it from the start. And it's ALSO possible that Midora will copy Surfer's Power Cosmic and add it to his arsenal. I don't know. There's a lot of variables.
EDIT 2*: This is just based on the size of the explosion. Obviously a blast doesn't need to be as big as the thing it hits to destroy it. From a size comparison, I'd expect on of Guiness's simple stomps to be enough to bust apart something as small as real-Earth(https://imgur.com/a/w3FNN). And a considerably weaker version of Neo/Acacia than the one Midora put up a good showing against caught Guiness's stomp one-handed with no damage(https://imgur.com/a/idtE7). Midora's Hungry Space, however, tears through his body to the atomic level (http://i.imgur.com/5YfIRR3.jpg).
So yeah, I think he can hurt Surfer just fine.
Last edited by Morning; 09-09-2019 at 06:58 PM.
Your issue with this feat boils down to "you can't prove my magic tiger repelling rock doesn't repel tigers, do you see any around here?" logic.I don't know. But my issue is with this one feat, since it doesn't actually happen on panel, not with Surfer's speed in general.
The Surfer straight up gets onto his board and flies off. The entire context is him thus departing to search the planet.
Your entire "problem" is "well since technically nothing explicitly said he didn't then instead fly up and use his cosmic awareness/did some power cosmic thing, I can totally claim the comic meant to imply he did that."
Last edited by Pendaran; 09-09-2019 at 07:18 PM.
I had a feeling magic tiger rock might make an appearance. :P
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
This is what happened:
https://imgur.com/a/OiMrIsC
How you take from that "yeah, well clearly I can read into that that he then used his cosmic awareness." is certainly bizarre.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan