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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It's his ego and obsessiveness.

    He's absolutely brilliant but he still has personal foibles and issues that get in the way.

    Just like Riddler is probably smarter then most anyone but he can't help himself by leaving clues that end up getting him caught.
    Like Lightning Rider said, there are different kinds of intelligence and this is clearly the subject where Lex would be stuck in the remedial class.
    His current approval rating is 34%, meaning 34% of Americans are still morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    Like Lightning Rider said, there are different kinds of intelligence and this is clearly the subject where Lex would be stuck in the remedial class.
    Intellectually he's probably above anyone but with emotional intelligence he's much more susceptible, but I think he can rein the latter in when he needs to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Intellectually he's probably above anyone but with emotional intelligence he's much more susceptible, but I think he can rein the latter in when he needs to.
    I'll believe that when he kills Superman.
    His current approval rating is 34%, meaning 34% of Americans are still morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    I'll believe that when he kills Superman.
    We know that's never going to happen .

    But again, I don't think Luthor not being able to kill Superman means he's dumb but that he has issues besides his intelligence that prevent him from achieving victory, like Superman being a better man then he is.

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    I'm sure I posted something similar before but why not:

    Strategic Intelligence-Batman. Being a vulnerable, flesh and flood human being gives Batman a unique understanding of using strengths and weaknesses in every calculation. Coupled with his knowledge of psychology, martial arts, and technology, and he's the strongest here. Outlandish feats aside, this one makes a lot of sense for the character.

    Raw Computing Ability-Superman. He probably counts the world's population in real time for fun and perceive astronomical quantities. It's all just there for him to see, the universe on display.

    Emotional Intelligence-Wonder Woman. The queen of empathy, understanding a human's emotional state comes easily to Diana. She has the exceptional capacity to appeal to people's sentiments and bring peace where there is turmoil.

    Scientific Expertise-Ray Palmer. He's made the study of science his life's work and taken it beyond any of his peers. Lex might closely follow and Bruce is no slouch, but Palmer knows as much as anyone could about how the material world operates. Superman might have an edge in understanding things beyond human comprehension, but his is a different methodology. Palmer knows science as formulated by the human species.

    Athletic/Spatial Intelligence-Mr. Terrific. Part of the reason he's so adaptive is that he has an innate understanding of how to marry his mind and body. There are obviously beings that can overpower him physically, but he is most in control of his own body's tactile capabilities.

    Brainiac and the New Gods sit on top of everyone else in terms of raw knowledge and overall intellect though. He has all the knowledge and otherworldly analytics, while the New Gods have cosmic knowledge. They know the unknowable, and exist beyond our plane.

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    The Schwartz era revival heroes were all given good reasons to be intelligent. The Flash, already being a police-scientist, could think fast. The Atom, being a physicist, could use his size changing abilities to explore the inner workings of things. Green Lantern might not have been a scientist but he had a ring that could give him all the knowledge of the universe. Hawkman and Hawkwoman had all the knowledge of Earth downloaded into their brains. Elongated Man was one of the world's greatest detectives. Adam Strange, an archaeologist, was the thinking man's hero, who defeated his enemies on Rann through intellect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    We know that's never going to happen .

    But again, I don't think Luthor not being able to kill Superman means he's dumb but that he has issues besides his intelligence that prevent him from achieving victory, like Superman being a better man then he is.
    Oh, by no means do I think Lex is dumb by any stretch of the imagination. I just question just how intelligent given that he seems completely incapable of deducing that his real arch foe is himself.
    His current approval rating is 34%, meaning 34% of Americans are still morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    The Schwartz era revival heroes were all given good reasons to be intelligent. The Flash, already being a police-scientist, could think fast. The Atom, being a physicist, could use his size changing abilities to explore the inner workings of things. Green Lantern might not have been a scientist but he had a ring that could give him all the knowledge of the universe. Hawkman and Hawkwoman had all the knowledge of Earth downloaded into their brains. Elongated Man was one of the world's greatest detectives. Adam Strange, an archaeologist, was the thinking man's hero, who defeated his enemies on Rann through intellect.
    Great point. Forgot about the Hawks and History, no-brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    I'll believe that when he kills Superman.
    He’s done that a few times. Earth 0 Lex just needs to get serious about it lol.

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    Some people are just naturally smarter than most. Some people can learn more easily and have he capacity for brilliance. It's called a genius. I think Lex Luthor is one of them. He's just better at intellectual intelligence more than most. I really never saw Batman in that level. He's not a genius. And if he is now, I don't like it. He doesn't need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer01 View Post
    I really never saw Batman in that level. He's not a genius. And if he is now, I don't like it. He doesn't need it.
    Well, being DC's Sherlock Holmes kind of automatically gives him genius points. How much of a genius? That we can debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    Oh, by no means do I think Lex is dumb by any stretch of the imagination. I just question just how intelligent given that he seems completely incapable of deducing that his real arch foe is himself.
    I think that's a completely separate issue from quantifying his intelligence though.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Well, being DC's Sherlock Holmes kind of automatically gives him genius points. How much of a genius? That we can debate.
    Well, if we're equating detective skills to intelligence then Elongated Man and Detective Chimp are smarter then Batman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, if we're equating detective skills to intelligence then Elongated Man and Detective Chimp are smarter then Batman...
    Except there's more to Batman than those two intellect-wise. Besides, he's still the world's greatest detective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Except there's more to Batman than those two intellect-wise. Besides, he's still the world's greatest detective.
    They can still out-detect him when they need too .

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