The Sky Sex Love Story, Husk and Angel
Quicksilver Sleeping With His Sister
Beak And Tempest's Egg Babies
Anything With Skin
Mystique Chats Up A High Schooler - X-Men: Worst X-Man Ever
Nightcrawler Dating His Stepsister -
The Metal World-Ending Villain That Was In Love With Jean Grey
Nightcrawler Becoming The Pope -
Emma Frost And Cyclops Make Out On Jean Grey's Grave
Ugly John existing
I'm surprised no one has mentioned X-Man #25 aka Nate Grey making out with a psionically-recreated clone of this timeline's version of his egg donor... and Jean walking up on them before they could bump uglies.
Well.... Not to mention Inferno. EVERYTHING about it. Actually one of my favorite crossovers, too.
Can't say much about Whedon, but Fraction wrote "To Have and To Hold" my favorite Peter/MJ story (although with some continuity troubles), so he can write it alright.Whedon and Fraction can't write good romances
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
Did Kurt and Rachel actually break up?
Yes, towards the end of X-Men Gold.
Also, Ult. Quicksilver and Ult. Scarlet Witch sleeping with each other was honestly really disgusting. When you read about incest in fiction, especially modern fiction, you are meant to see that it is destructive for both parties. You see it evident in the House of Black from Harry Potter which inbreeding spawned Bellatrix. In Ultimates 3, it's portrayed positively and that Cap's objections to it are played as just another sign of him being a relic of the past. Everyone with half a brain knows that the jingoistic moron was being sane.
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Is there anything about Chuck Austen run that was good? from his stories he comes of as a despicable human being. everything he did was bad, offensive and upsetting. Nurse Annie, Nightcrawler and the Draco story line, Angel falling in love with Husk,Polaris getting left at the alter, Nightcrawler secretly hate Christianity.
The only thing I think he ever did slightly right was how he wrote the Guthrie Family but that was even kind of still bad because he wrote them as a stereotypical ''white trash'' family from the south. Really terrible comic writer is the name Chuck Austen.
You're not wrong. Doesn't change my point lol.
I don't think the Dupe Baby story could be fairly called "inappropriate". Melodramatic, maybe, but not inappropriate.
Madrox/Layla is definitely kinda creepy, but Madrox is fully aware that it's creepy. He talks about it a fair bit when it starts. It's part of their story that it's messed up, it isn't a blindspot by the creative team.
Layla's head was all messed up by virtue of, well, "know[ing] stuff". And one of the things she 'knew' was that she'd wind up with Madrox. It definitely messed with her perspective. Meanwhile, Madrox had just been about to commit suicide before Layla showed up... so it isn't like he was in a healthy state of mind.
Most comics are about messed up people, but PAD's X-Factor was about messed up people who routinely got pushed to their breaking points, and often past them. The advantage of having a cast of non A-listers, he could actually doing bold stuff with the characters.
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Many saw Spuffy as a more "grown up" relationship even though it involved emotional abuse, bringing out the worst in one another, consent violations, and attempted rape. So I start to think "grown up" doesn't mean anything these days besides things being so bad in the world that toxic relationships which bring out people's worst sides are considered normal.
Someone also go the same route with Jott that they do with Bangel. First Love = Puppy love & not real. If that's the case, then Emma's feelings for Scott can't be too real since it would appear he's her first love & real relationship. It doesn't seem she's had any other loves or men who have given a crap about her. So arguably, she's just stuck on Scott because he was her first love and she's not used to the feelings & connection on a romantic level. Like a virgin getting sprung on the first person they sleep with.
Or Deadpool "loving" Siryn because she was the first good girl who actually liked him, which made him feel better about himself.
We also can't forget him not doing any research and retconning Mystique's history. He created Azazel I think. If I am mistaken, sorry. But that seems like a mess he'd created. Then the retconned Mystique's first meeting with Creed where she runs into him as a homeless woman, asks him for food, then he gives it to her & expects sex in return for buying her dinner. Then we have a panel of him on top of her while she thinks about being glad she could sleep through most of it.
It took fans writing him letters about that mess of a retcon that was nothing close to the story we were told years earlier. Then Austen admits he didn't know the previous story about them existed. Nice job Mr. "writer."
Last edited by Silver Fang; 09-09-2019 at 05:59 AM.
Since I didn't grow up with the first Gen X book, what's wrong with Skin?
"Cable was right!"
I think the twin incest with Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch in Ultimate was the worst. Even Draco wasn't that bad, by comparison. I think that sub-plot was one of the most telling signs that Marvel had just stopped trying with Ultimate.
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