Yes
No
It's complicated.
XTINCTION AGENDA'S kiss I viewed as mutual. Logan is also half dead in those panels. It wasn't a sexually charged kiss. Still, it was mutual in my eyes INFERNO and Joe Casey's kisses were both definitely Logan grabbing Jean and kissing her.
I still maintain that in NXM, Logan preemptively kissed Jean and then told her (despite their mutual feelings) it would never work out.
The body language is all wrong otherwise...her back is turned completely away from Logan in the previous panel...then she is spun around, she's leaning back, one arm completely down the side of her body, and slightly off balance, and Logan's stance is stable and with both his hands around Jean
Was Cyclops already over Jean before Emma came along?
According to Morrison, yes.
According to everyone else, no.
Don't agree at all. At best, the kiss was mutual. No way it was Logan grabbing and kissing Jean. Just read the dialogue leading up to the kiss and the aftermath. Guess we'd need to see the plot or ask Morrison to know for sure. But I know I'd lay odds it's not that Logan alone initiated the kiss.
Don't think so. But after yes.
Also jean is a telepath. There's no "initiating" thing. Every kiss of loganxjean & grifterxjean is mutual.
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That doesn't even make sense... Why don't you explain Wolverine's telepathic resistance and how it can fluctuate up and down depending on who is writing the story? Moreover, "WildC.A.T.s/X-Men: The Silver Age" isn't in continuity, but nice try though.
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In that scene isn't it Wolverine who rebuffs her by saying it will never work between us?
Jean is venting some of her feelings and frustrations...Logan doesn't say anything, he looks almost as if he's studying her, before interjecting with what she's saying needs(intimacy), then says it won't work between them
A preemptive kiss, even if the initiator of the kiss then walks away, happens in media. Sometimes played for comedy, or the initiator using the kiss to be cruel("a taste of what you'll never have again"), etc. It's even done to shut someone up...which is almost how that kiss was, but more so instead to "cut to the chase", that despite what she's going through, he cant help her with that (and he already told Scott, he has to tend to his own lawn)
Sorry, but that is not correct...
- The WildC.A.T.s./X-Men story arc revolved around the centuries-long war between aliens called Kherubim and Daemonites. Kherubims, a nearly immortal, human-looking alien race with exceptional powers and skills, eventually traveled to Earth and by breeding with humans populated the planet with “Half-Breeds.” Daemonites, besides having a fearsome appearance, also possessed various superhuman abilities including body possession and mental control over human beings and are trying to take over the world.
- The WildC.A.T.s. are a group of Kherubim, half-breeds, super-powered humans (and an android) who are trying to stop the Daemonites.
- This story takes place before the formation of the actual WildC.A.T.s. team.
- This story isn’t in continuity for either the X-Men or the WildC.A.T.s.
Personally, I believe that Mister Sinister gained Jean Grey's DNA during "The Further Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" which was set in the year 1859.That's where Sinister got jean's DNA to clone her & "make" madelyne.
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