What? The Storm thing? I actually don’t care about this old stuff, which was completely forgotten by the modern writers, like many other stupid stuff from old comics. My point was about Scemma make-out sessions.
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It's complicated.
What? The Storm thing? I actually don’t care about this old stuff, which was completely forgotten by the modern writers, like many other stupid stuff from old comics. My point was about Scemma make-out sessions.
While I didn't like that Morrison wrote Scott into having an affair, I don't think I would imply that Emma raped him in any way. Did she take advantage of her therapy to get close to him? Yes. But Scott did acknowledge the situation as an affair and gave into it. Scott also was aware enough not to have any physical intimacy, so I can't say I agree with the claims.
"This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot"
-Spider-man
“Evil is evil...lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same."
-Geralt of Rivia
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
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People on these forums and others throw the word Rape around way too easily. Personally I feel they don't even understand the true meaning of the word. Just read a few real rape victim statements and then people on this forum may realize that using the word Rape around any comic book relationship they don't like is kind of horrible.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-ra#.mszo8oOPp
I don’t think that being Neo-Magneto is a bad thing in a fictional story, which is should be entertaining. Scott resembling him in a many ways, except “let’s kill all people”.
Yep, definitely close. I feel that the lack of exploration on what Scott was going through specifically, and the state of mind he was in is what makes the situation as bad as it is.
I agree with you pretty strongly on this. Some words are tossed around too easily.
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"This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot"
-Spider-man
“Evil is evil...lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same."
-Geralt of Rivia
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
You'll actually find that most of the people are fans of Emma Frost didn't really like seeing Jean killed off. To this day I feel that killing off Jean was a cop out because they didn't actually have the courage to write a divorce story. It's no different than Peter and MJ, instead of writing a divorce, they had Peter and MJ sell their "love" to the devil in exchange for saving Aunt May. That's just gross, the whole idea of it is just gross. This is all Joe Quesada believing that Peter and Scott shouldn't be married because it makes them too old for comic book fans. I call bullshit on that, there are lots of popular characters that have been married and even had divorces in comics. I personally thought Morrison was breaking Scott and Jean up in a dramatic way and I was hoping he would follow through on the story, break them up, but Jean deserves to have her chance to shine as a single woman in the process. As a writer I am perfectly fine with them breaking up ships, but the solution isn't to kill one of the people off, the solution is to give the other character a story of their own. It's not like the X-Men don't have multiple books, you have New X-Men carries forward with Scott and Emma as a couple, and you have Jean on a different team like X-Factor, X-Force, or Uncanny X-Men. Killing Jean off was stupid and it's the one thing I truly hate about that time. Even talking about "One More Day" just makes me angry beyond words, it was the stupidest idea that Joe Quesada ever shoved down comic book fans throats.
Jean or noone was not said durng the psychic affar. It was said when Scott rejected her advances in Hong Kong. For me, ponting out Emma's moral shortcomings does nothng. I didn't expect moral behavor from her. I did from Scott.
Yes, she took advantage of him and tried to seduce him. First physically, then mentally. However, she did NOT force him to do anything. I don't see this as analagous to rape. And while he knows it's wrong, hell, he initially called it off in 138 because he knew it was wrong, he kept letting himself be talked into continuing the affar. That is on him. You cannot let him cross that line. LOL, not if you want me to keep buying the book. And 131 was the last ssue that they got my money.
Apocalypse's effect on Scott reads different ways at dfferent times in the run. I do think it's telling that he isn't mentioned in any interview where Morrison talked about Scott. My personal take is that Morrison used that experience as something of sn eye opener for Scott. He's come to some self realizations. Like with him and Jean. He can now see that Jean and he have just been spinnng their wheels since she came back in 86.
I repeat. This does not mean that I agree at all with this take. I do think, though, that it was the author's take. And since he was writing the characters at the time, they acted accordingly I distinctly recall shaking my head in dsbelief when Scott called the marriage faked. That was the first time I said, uh oh. Before that, I thought he was giving Jott some drama and they'd be together in the end.