View Poll Results: Was Cyclops already over Jean before Emma came along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamall View Post
    Important characters do not lie in the grave for decades.
    The only interesting thing about her was the Phoenix. And even that was taking away from her since we can have phoenix!Cyclops/Rachel/Quire/and literally anyone.
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    She wasn't decades dead, it was fourteen years but: there was Hope and there was Teen jean. So the books always had some version of Jean running around.
    yeah anyone can be phoenix and it was awful and didn't had the same impact as Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She wasn't decades dead, it was fourteen years but: there was Hope and there was Teen jean. So the books always had some version of Jean running around.
    yeah anyone can be phoenix and it was awful and didn't had the same impact as Jean
    Hope is more a Rogue/Cable copy then Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamall View Post
    Important characters do not lie in the grave for decades.
    The only interesting thing about her was the Phoenix. And even that was taking away from her since we can have phoenix!Cyclops/Rachel/Quire/and literally anyone.
    Are you honestly gonna argue that Jean Grey is not an important character? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Are you honestly gonna argue that Jean Grey is not an important character? Really?
    Delusional troll in denial, just like Emma herself; green with envy over Jean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Hope is more a Rogue/Cable copy then Jean
    She looks exactly like Jean and has a special connection to Phoenix

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Hope is more a Rogue/Cable copy then Jean

    She was originally meant to be Jean reincarnated, so Spirit is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She looks exactly like Jean and has a special connection to Phoenix
    She has a different eye colour she looks more like Black Widow and fights just as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePhoenix View Post
    She was meant to be Jean reincarnated, so Spirit is right.
    She was never meant to be Jean. Ever. They toyed around with the idea before Hope was created. But when Hope was created they always said she was not Jean from day 1. And I know this because I was on these boards when IGN asked that question. And when Cebeluski and Alonso said that she was never a reincarnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    She has a different eye colour she looks more like Black Widow and fights just as well.
    They gave her other powers, eye color on comics is always changing. She is green eyed just as Jean
    On comics there was ajoke that Hope looked just as Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    She was never meant to be Jean. Ever. They toyed around with the idea before Hope was created. But when Hope was created they always said she was not Jean from day 1. And I know this because I was on these boards when IGN asked that question. And when Cebeluski and Alonso said that she was never a reincarnation.
    Sure, Jan. They even had her hold Cyke’s little picture locket with Jean’s photo inside. Another clue that he was never over Jean, thanks for trying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    She has a different eye colour she looks more like Black Widow and fights just as well.
    What you talking about? Hope very much has the same eye color as Jean

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePhoenix View Post
    Sure, Jan. They even had her hold Cyke’s little picture locket with Jean’s photo inside. Another clue that he was never over Jean, thanks for trying though.
    What's funny is that Jean Grey fans were constantly told she wasn't Jean from Day 1. She turned out she wasn't Jean and now we have to create some delusion to retroactively change history to please some hysteria.

    No that scene was a throwback to Cyclops giving Cable to Mother Askani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    What you talking about? Hope very much has the same eye color as Jean
    Her eyes were blue in messiah complex. And she was more blonde when Bachalo and Ramos drew her. And her eyes are hazel in the handbooks Jeans is green

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Her eyes were blue in messiah complex. And she was more blonde when Bachalo and Ramos drew her. And her eyes are hazel in the handbooks Jeans is green
    The images I have seen the eyes are very green

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    Jean is super important, even when she is dead. When she dies all the X-books and the x-men lives change, their world becomes darker. No other death is as big as hers.
    She didn't stay dead because she didn't matter. on the contraty, she matters too much. When she is alive all the big players on the X-books change, Wolverine, Cyclops, Xavier, Storm, even Emma.

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