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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Yeah you didn’t address my points at all. Let me break it down for you
    1. No one cares about reviews, they care about sales. If a comic gets bad reviews but sells well it’s getting a sequel
    2. Miller, by virtue of writing 2 of the most transformative DC works ever (in addition to his Marvel and indie work which was also transformative), gets more leeway than your average writer similar to how Wolfman and Jurgens keep getting modern day work even though their work is mostly mediocre outside of a few hits
    3. Miller Batman sells really well. DK3 sold really well. DC is more likely to say “Guess people just don’t care about Superman” than they are to blame Miller. Now I agree with you that DKSA is absolutely godawful BUT they gave him Master Race after that so they’re perfectly willing to keep giving him more chances

    In short no, this will probably not be the last thing Miller writes, this like Last Crusade is a bridge to another DK book, probably DKIV
    99% chance its DKIV, yeah.
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    ...Wait, how did this "golden child" become competent enough to use his superpowers responsibly by the time he's four or five-years-old?

    I know Supes in this universe was a baby (or toddler?) that somehow knew how language worked well enough to narrate to us and be aware of his surroundings, while he still couldn't speak. Which means he's able to retain his memories from infancy (it's unexplained why Kryptonian babies would even need to) and should be able to move around, unlike human babies, due to his yellow sun-based superpowers manifesting.

    I know nothing about Diana in this universe... Which makes it difficult to understand the development of a young half-kryptonian/half-??? child.

    Was Diana sculpted from clay or is she a demi-goddess in this universe? What exactly sets Diana apart from her mother and the average human, other than the gifts she was granted by the Greek gods?

    I know, I know, I'm overthinking this. It doesn't even matter. It's just a comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crabble View Post
    ...Wait, how did this "golden child" become competent enough to use his superpowers responsibly by the time he's four or five-years-old?

    I know Supes in this universe was a baby or toddler that somehow knew how language worked well enough to narrate to us and be aware of his surroundings, while he still couldn't speak. Which means he's able to retain his memories from infancy and was able to move around, unlike human babies. Wait, was he supposed to be a toddler in Year One?

    I know nothing about Diana in this universe... Which makes it difficult to understand the development of a young half-kryptonian/half-??? hybrid.

    Was Diana sculpted from clay or is she a demi-goddess in this universe?

    Quote from Miller:
    “Lara has so much power and passion, so for the little boy to embody all of the wisdom and intelligence of the Kryptonian race would be an exciting new dimension. He really sort of developed as a little floating Buddha, someone who when he wasn’t even a toddler yet was speaking in full sentences and had an understanding of events that surpassed anybody else’s. He’s the most magical member of the family.
    Diana is now probably retconned to be a Demi-Goddess in this verse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Quote from Miller:


    Diana is now probably retconned to be a Demi-Goddess in this verse.
    It's possible ... this is one of the reasons why I want a Wonder Woman Year One made by Miller so much (maybe with the help of Azzarello) ... we need answers to some questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Quote from Miller:


    Diana is now probably retconned to be a Demi-Goddess in this verse.
    Thank youuu.

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    DC Switches Out DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: GOLDEN CHILD Cover

    DC has replaced the originally solicited primary cover to The Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child #1. The publisher did not give a reason for the change, however both are by series artist Rafael Grampa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    DC Switches Out DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: GOLDEN CHILD Cover


    Now that is more like it! All 3 on the cover!

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    Frank Miller interview with comicbook.com and first look of interiors

    Frank Miller on Passing The Dark Knight Returns Legacy Onto the Next Generation in "The Golden Child"

    Legendary comics creator Frank Miller is headed back to the world of The Dark Knight Returns again, telling a story that shows just how different the next generation of heroes in his future have turned out to be. In The Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child, a one-shot written by Miller and featuring art by Rafael Grampa, Carrie Kelley – now fully realized as Batwoman – and Jonathan Kent will team up to be a bizarre and unpredictable riff on the “World’s Finest” team-ups of the past. Bizarre, in part, because Jonathan Kent is a toddler but, possessed of super-intellect (a power mostly used during Superman’s Silver Age adventures), he has become what Miller describes as a “floating Buddha.”

    While Jonathan’s sister Lara took on the warrior attributes of her Amazon upbringing, Jon has access to all of Krypton’s wisdom and knowledge at his beck and call. And that can make for a very different adventure than his father, whom The Dark Knight Returns’s Batman had derided as acting without thinking, and relying too much on his powers.

    “Jonathan did really evolve since DK3,” Miller told ComicBook.com. “He’s in it himself, but what comes next – Lara as the daughter of Superman, having all the power and fury and sturm und drang, to all of a sudden have the boy being this floating Buddha with all the wisdom of Krypton, seemed irresistible. In Dark Knight Returns, Carrie comes in and is really the daughter of Batman. And Lara in DK2 as the rather surprising daughter of Superman, and the third one, we’ve got Jonathan.”

    Miller wanted to explore what he calls the “turbulent” relationship between Batman and Superman in most modern comics – that, of course, is a relationship that both he and The Dark Knight Returns had no small part in shaping over the years. But rather than doing it with two old men over drinks, Miller moved the dynamic on to the next generation and asked himself, what would it look like if the daughter of Batman was suddenly somewhat responsible for a being as powerful as the child of Superman and Wonder Woman?

    “Partly what I’m up to, I’ve got to admit, is a bit of fun,” Miller said. “I’m playing off the very turbulent relationship I gave Superman and Batman. In this situation, it’s almost a reversal, in that Carrie is working with a boy who’s very much her junior, and is just discovering things – just discovering what people are. As innately wise as he is, she’s showing him the ropes. She’s very much a big sister…but she knows she’s dealing with an atom bomb in terms of power, and she’s trying to guide it.”

    Miller has made no secret about his desire to see more stories told with Carrie Kelley, including the potential for middle-reader adventure stories in the vein of Nancy Drew. But of course, the world of The Dark Knight Returns has become more and more fleshed out as sequels have come in the new millennium. While The Golden Child reads differently than the previous installments, it remains very much a story told in that same world. And while Miller admits that there are DC heroes he would love to play with some more, he seems to be enjoying working with his own original characters first.

    “I do have a take on The Atom I’d love to do, and each one of these characters is so well-conceived that there are ways you can approach them that nobody’s done yet,” Miller explained. “I won’t go into each example because I don’t want to be throwing too many ideas around. What I’m really into with this project, is exploring the switch from generation to generation. I think that’s a powerful motif, and I love the idea of Dark Knight going from this story about a hero facing age (and the first Dark Knight, he spends the whole thing moaning and groaning about how old he is and how much his bones hurt) and having it move now into how the characters are young and untried and learning the ropes.”

    The end result of decades of storytelling set in this universe seems to be that Miller has an opportunity that few creators – other than Savage Dragon’s Erik Larsen – have: to comment on culture and the characters by allowing them to more or less age in real time and evolve alongside the rest of us. But don’t give him too much credit for that, he jokes.
    “I wish I could say I planned it that way, but orignally, I planned for the ending of the first Dark Knight that Batman was going to die and I changed it,” Miller said. “So these things are not as planned as we often like to pretend they are. The stories do come naturally, the characters start demanding things by themselves, and that’s usually when the stories get better.”




    Edit: DC nation Twitter posted fully colored page:
    https://twitter.com/thedcnation/stat...371844096?s=21

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    Continued...




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    Thanks for sharing these preview pages.

    Really dig the tones on Grampa's cool pencils. Lara clearly seems to have reconciled her heritages judging from her wearing both SM and WW symbols!
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    That’s some gorgeous art no denying it.

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    Kid reminds me of some freaky early-season version of Stewie Griffin, lol
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    DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD leads advance-reorder chart.

    18 years ago in December, Dark Knight Strikes Again gave the nascent recovery a boost thru the winter months. Today, this December's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD from Frank Miller has led the first advance-reorder chart for which it was eligible
    https://twitter.com/comichron/status...362742785?s=21

    Frank Miller's return to the world of Batman led the charts in the form of Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child #1. His Dark Knight Strikes Again #1 was also a winter release, leading the charts in December 2001 and helping to accelerate the industry's recovery in 2002.
    https://www.comichron.com/monthlycom...9/2019-12.html

    Also:
    Rafael Grampá confirms, on IG, Darkseid is the villain as the covers have shown but says he isn’t the only villain.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B40ZI8ClwGy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Frank Miller and Rafael Grampa will be attending CCXP for a “Golden Child” panel. Panel will be December 8th.


    Frank Miller variant


    Well, I'm definitely pre-ordering that Frank Miller variant!

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