Hey I loved Mandrill. He showed a small white child can become a strong black woman.
But really, someone born with black skin turning into an ape, how is that racist?
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Eh. It's more of an issue that there are two people in this thread, who have posted in this thread that have basically mirrored that line of thought without any sense of sarcasm.
I've seen both of you (Kirby and jet) regularly post so I got the sarcasm, but if you haven't bumped into each other's posting circles it might be easy to get it twisted.
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The more I think about, the more I think Mandrill as a villain could work in a modern setting. You'd of course have to lose the ape-man stuff. But we do live in a world where we have trans-racialists like Rachel Dolezal on one hand and self hating negroes like Jesse Lee Peterson on the other. Back in the 80's Howard Chaykin did a story where the criminal was running drugs, prostitution etc and at first you thought it was a black/brown man but at the end it was white guy and it turned out he disguised himself as a black man specifically because he wanted to live out his racist fantasies. Thing is you make it clear in the story that he's racist and self hating, with careful writing I think it could be done.
What was that story in Ultimates by Mark Millar with black Hulk who was all about that thug life? I say use that character, but show why it's a negative image.
And a TON of folks would agree with you.
Now here is why you see the race changing versus using who is already there.
Look at CW's Riverdale-where did all those POC come from? They are NOT in the comics.
Can anybody name some POC at Archie beside Chuck & Valerie? Raj, Nancy, Tapaz, Frankie, Ginger, Eugene, Amani, Tim & Trey.
How many POC at Archie got stories with THEM as the lead? Chuck, Raj & Frankie. Chuck was the last one to get a story and that was back in 2009. 2011 marked the LAST time you saw Chuck in Archie's book. Aside from cameos's in Jughead-he doesn't exist.
Mind you once upon a time-Chuck & Archie were co-leads in a book for almost 100 issues.
Then you look at Riverdale-all those race changed folks.
Archie, Veronica, Pops, Dilton & Melody are played by POC (or folks with POC linked to them).
Stuff like that gets done to FORCE writers to use POC without having to do a LOT of work.
So while we say use who you HAVE-what is already there is NOT much to work with.
Especially if you are talking about POC.
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From memory, the last version of the comics code I read had a near identical definition to that quoted by OP as to how different groups were to be portrayed in comics - so that by the end the code was in part an "sjw" manifesto.
I never really understand the debate - I thought heroes were supposed to defend the weaker, the disenfranchised etc etc.