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It's been a long running joke in the black comic fan subgroup.
In relation to this thread it would make me laugh if they cast lightskinned black people to play the Osborns and then see the arguments back and forth based solely on hair.
Also, they should make his cousin Hydro Man, because his waves are fresh as ####.
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Relevant to the conversation. XD
Oh, I forgot, someone I've been friends with for over 25 years, who I know quite well, and doesn't fit this monolithic mold being put forth, you're able to speak with more experience about this person you've never met. Yeah, there's no race hatred being spread here, must've all been in my head.
Sounds like you know him real well.
Go ahead, ask him, "Hey, when people call me out, I prop you up as my "black best friend" (my literal words), to validate whatever it is I'm saying."
"Race hatred", I don't hate anyone, I just think YOU, and you specifically, are full of ####. You're the one who is all salty because I'm not kowtowing to your nonsense.
Now run along, you've got a "black best friend" to talk to.
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Someone I know well in my life is a good example when, again, he doesn't fit the box you're trying to put him in.
I see you took no exception to the user I responded to in that comment using minority children needing rolemodels of the same race and cheap toys that match their skin color being a problem for some reason (or the stem example). It's almost like you don't take exception to examples of black people being "dangled around as a shield" when it's used to paint them as victims.
I think you're "full of ####" too, so take that for what it is
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I just never understand why people don't just stand by their own thoughts and words, rather then trot out some nebulous "friend" that isn't even part of the discussion.
If that person isn't here to speak for themselves then why would you put words in their mouth.
Why would someone think I give a #### about what they claim their friend thinks, it's an anecdote at best, but usually just wholesale BS.
That's taking an awful lot of liberty for the sake of an argument on a comic book forum for someone you would claim is your friend.
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You may think i am but this was one of if not the only thing Ned wanted after learning Peter was Spider-Man, he wanted to be Spider-Mans overwatch don't believe me watch homecoming again plus my point is and this applys to Stark to when has Peter ever need help being spider-man.
I'm not offended, i'm angry because i want to understand the creative process so that when i do it in my stories i'm not poing PC stuff but what i believe to be true progression but when i question any change to race, sexual orientition all i get is why not
Here is a thought why can't i write a bisexual batwoman because supposedly thats digusting or a bisexual Karolina Dean because thats digusting too but a gay Steve Rogers with bucky thats adorable why, the only reason i can think of is that gay characters can't be changed but straight ones can and its because of implications regardless of how its done it has implications
So long as the implications are againist white, male and/or straight people then its of no concern but if it impacts a minority then nope it needs change.
Who are you to say what is and isnt revelant, i think it is very revelant, what i am saying is that Peter is not meant to have friends but Disney made a decision which was a political decison to represent all these minorities however they gave them roles to me they shouldnt have.
Ned Leeds can be Asian without a issue however to me should not have been Peters BFF
Says who
I'm sorry but what kind of bully was he, for me purposly Flash is meant to be imposing physically and the effect of that is the impact it has on peter,
He hates Flash and would like nothing but to kick the crap out of him however a) it would out him as spidey and b)it would make him as bad as flash with this MCU one that is lost.
I disagree i think it was a bad change
Again says you, for me the journey of Flash wither he be Latino, South Asian or Black should be the same because of the impact to Peter's story impact that we have lost because i'm not scared of Flash, don't even think he is that bad because there is no conflict between them
The issue is that Peter beats Flash - Flash is jealous - Peter has no reason to fear Flash matter of fact he has no reason to care about Flash other than being you know a human being.
Plus correct me if i'm wrong but they were organically introduced
I will disagree because i dont think that is PC, its just introducing a new character and doing it well for creatvie reasons. Maybe thats the answer Political Correctness is done right when you dont force it and arent trying.
I know you more than likely dont care but i agree thank you
That is my stance to tell a story if a black character can be or needs to be fine do it otherwise just tell a story and sometimes I don't think that happens because people are worried about how it will seem instead of letting it stand by itself.
For example its taking the Avengers and saying we need a black character on the avengers so we will add Falcon, it to me detracts from the story.
I think Mia explained it well, the character appears because reasons or why not; this isnt saying more races shouldnt be represneted but its how you do it, if it feels as if its shoe horned then chances are its shoe horned.
No it depends on why you do it , for example i do the same for some of my stories, ensuring i know how many male female characters and obviously i will add race in as well however i look at makiing sure everyone gets representated but also that i can defend it without going because i want to.
I could be mistake but i thought he wanted an example of political correctness done right not that minorities shouldnt get representation.
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Those people will be defeated when the film exceeded expectation.
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Truth is the best policy
Mandril is one of the very few characters I honestly don't believe is salvageable. Most of the time, I'm all about the 'no bad characters', but the amount of work you'd need to make him even slightly less offensive just isn't worth it, IMO, not when there are far better characters languishing for lack of it.
You seem really pressed that I have a black friend and I used him as an example of someone who's self sufficient. Almost like you're threatened by someone like that existing.
I'll also reiterate that the person I responded to also used things black people were going through in his example, but you agree with him so don't feel the need to take the most bad faith interpretation possible of what he said.
I'm standing behind what I said, none of the people going through the cheap black toy epidemic seem to be here outside of possibly the person who brought it up, but you've got no problem with that example, just mine.