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    Default Marius St. Croix

    Have we ever seen him drawn in his original human form?

    How much older than M was he supposed to be? New Mutant age? Iceman/Rogue/Colossus age? Storm/Cyclops/Angel? Banshee/Forge?

    Did he have the same parents as M and the twins?

    I know his powers are incredibly varied, but what was his original mutant power?

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    He has been shown in human form on a few occasions. The first time it happened was earlier issues of GenX where Monet (M-twins) imagines if he never became a monster.


    He was also seen in Age of Apocalypse with the M-twins.


    He & Monet do in fact have the same parents, he murdered their mother by feeding on her when his power manifested & was banished from the family.


    He's basically a mutant vampire who needs to feed on the marrow of mutants to survive. He also is an leech-type like Rogue who can manifest the powers of mutants he feeds on. Not a mutant power, but he's also a skilled sorcerer & responsible for trapping Monet inside the body of Penance.

    I don't think his age is now. We just know he's older than Monet, but not by how much.
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    Thanks SF. Figured you’d be the best resource, glad you jumped out :-)

    One more question: Emplate doesn’t seem to mean anything. Is there a reason he chosen or was given the name “Emplate”?

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    Could be a play on M and Template, and how he copies other powers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Could be a play on M and Template, and how he copies other powers
    It's as good a theory as any. I sure as Heck have no idea. Lol

    He needs more focus. He has good villain potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Could be a play on M and Template, and how he copies other powers
    I agree his name was supposed to SOUND like Template, but it’s weird they just wouldn’t go with THAT as his name.

    Has it ever been confirmed that “M” was always supposed to be revealed to be merged twins, and go by the name “M&M”?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    He needs more focus. He has good villain potential.
    Agreed. He’s just REALLY complicated in a bastardized “90s” way. Working on a streamlined 80s introduction for my own Grand Design.
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    Marius is that old rich guy in nightlife or the art world that is a gourmand of very eclectic, eccentric, delicacies and tastes. He's an exaggeration of that kind of Andy Warhol predator so obsessed with 'supping' on the talents of the new, the young, as to keep himself 'in the world' and relevant. Yes, he's supposed to look like he's wearing breathing apparatus but also its made to look like he's using it to smell his own farts. That's the kind of deviant beautiful emplate is meant to be read as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsnapulon5000 View Post
    Marius is that old rich guy in nightlife or the art world that is a gourmand of very eclectic, eccentric, delicacies and tastes. He's an exaggeration of that kind of Andy Warhol predator so obsessed with 'supping' on the talents of the new, the young, as to keep himself 'in the world' and relevant. Yes, he's supposed to look like he's wearing breathing apparatus but also its made to look like he's using it to smell his own farts. That's the kind of deviant beautiful emplate is meant to be read as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    I agree his name was supposed to SOUND like Template, but its weird they just wouldnt go with THAT as his name.
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    There was already mutant(s) who used that name Karma's siblings who also had an ill-defined powerset, and were twins + Emplate sounds cooler
    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    IHas it ever been confirmed that M was always supposed to be revealed to be merged twins.
    Yup
    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    Iand go by the name M&M?.
    Uhhhh No lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post

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    Lol Just eFFin LOOKING at a demonster'd Emplate and it's obvious M and her family are black. Proves that people willing to do a lotta skilled mental gymnastics to get over that pommel horse lol #smdh
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    I feel like I should go back and check how Monet's father looked when he showed up in PAD's X-Factor.

    Just to see how whitewashed he got

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I feel like I should go back and check how Monet's father looked when he showed up in PAD's X-Factor.

    Just to see how whitewashed he got


    From his Wiki page

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    He was super duper chocolate and I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrancejameson View Post
    He was super duper chocolate and I love it.
    He had to be. PAD was already getting heat for Monet's whiteness.

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    Glad to be proven wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Glad to be proven wrong
    Yeah. Her father, and the rest of her family, didn't turn white until X-Men vol 4...

    But getting back to Emplate, I liked when Bunn brought him to Uncanny. It was nice seeing Monet confront him again, and Bunn's take on him having love for Monet, but still being a sociopath.


    There's also some brotherly jealousy or protectiveness from him when he needles Monet about her bond with Creed.




    We need more of Emplate. If Hickman can elevate Monet some, Emplate may get somewhere. Her brother being something of her arch nemesis. All good heroes have a arch or main foe. But make sure the foe is good.
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