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I remember the first time when Batman went without trunks, when Kelley Jones was doing the series. I loved Jones artwork, but it seemed all wrong and rather obscene to have a Batman without trunks--as if he forgot to wear his pants. It's like the fetishistic nature of the super-heroes is turned up to the max when Bats and Supes wear these outfits that are best suited to a night at the BDSM club. The movies even moreso. Which is fine--super-heroes have always been into fetish outfits--but there's no pretense of anything but serving a puriant desire to see men in close-fitting leather, pvc, rubber and plastic. Don't try to convince me that you actually think these outfits are anymore conservative than the trunks that match the capes.
Why would you even think that's underwear? Who wears a belt with their underwear? That just seems reaching to me and nothing that's suggested in the actual comic book art. Yes the trunks are fetishistic--as is everything else about supersuits--but it's a diffent kind of fetish from wearing your Stanfield's over your pants. The only supersuits that don't seem too much like fetish fashion would be regular street clothes. But then you have long coats, broad brimmed hats, leather jackets, combat boots, with lots of buckles and seams, which can be viewed as fetish wear, too.
There's nothing to be ashamed of about clothes as fetish. We all have those feelings. I'm just saying people should be honest and not try to shame other people into disliking something because it has a fetish association. Even if Superman wore pink panties, there's no reason that should be held up for ridicule. We should be forward thinking enough that none of this is derided and mocked.
The thing with masks, boots, capes, trunks and gloves is that they hide the body parts. I soon realized as a kid the reason why Batman and Superman had to wear trunks was the same reason the nether regions of Swamp Thing were obscured by india ink. The characters needed to cover up; they weren't flashing. That's probably why it looks to me like Batman and Superman, without trunks, are flashing; because they were always covered up down there.
As well, with the way comics are now coloured, it's like the suits are painted on--so it seems like the characters are revealing a lot more than they did in the old days, when art wasn't so excessively detailed and painted. They aren't leaving much to the imagination now.
Totally agree on that! The armbands just seem "stupid" for lack of a better word. What are they supposed to be? They aren't gauntlets (which he wouldn't need anyway) so what is the purpose of them?
I kind of like the red piping on the bottom of the sleeves (on Supergirl's costume) and wouldn't be opposed to something like that on Superman's costume. The metal armbands however just don't do anything for the suit.